Camaro ZL1... something wicked this way comes.

[Payman]

The new Camaro ZL1 just did something very interesting at the Nurburgring, posting a blistering 7:41.27 lap. 

To put that in perspective, the fastest lap by an Audi R8 V10 is 7:44, a Ferrari 599's is 7:47, and a Caterham 500 Superlight is 7:55.

No Mustang has broken the 8 second barrier to date, and the previous Camaro best was 8:20 for an SS model back in 2008.

Wow.

[sportyaccordy]

That is pretty incredible, that's like a Mercury Marauder lapping in under 8 mins

[S204STi]

Cheesus Rice...

[2o6]

That is pretty incredible, that's like a Mercury Marauder lapping in under 8 mins

No.

[Payman]

The closest car I can think of to the ZL1 is the CTS-V, and that car posted a 7:59.

[SVT666]

Fuck me that's fast.

[sportyaccordy]

No.

Oh cmon now. That is a really good time for an armored truck. Esp one w/o AWD like the GT-R. Its impressive, in a "who thought that was a good idea" way.

[Payman]

Oh cmon now. That is a really good time for an armored truck. Esp one w/o AWD like the GT-R. Its impressive, in a "who thought that was a good idea" way.

For a non-AWD, 4120 lb car, it's mindblowing.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Gm is really kicking ass with it's high performance vehicles...........

[Soup DeVille]

Queue the Japanese and European apologists...

[GoCougs]

Gm is really kicking ass with it's high performance vehicles...........

The adaptive magnetic shocks is where it's at; something I don't think anyone else has.

[hotrodalex]

The adaptive magnetic shocks is where it's at; something I don't think anyone else has.

I believe Ferrari has it, but it might be licensed from GM.

[GoCougs]

I believe Ferrari has it, but it might be licensed from GM.

They buy it from GM.

[MrH]

It was made by Delphi in conjunction with GM. Got an offer from the company that used tl be part of Delphi that developed it. Ferrari and Audi buys it from GM. BMW made their own version. Doesn't quite explain how the car lapped faster than a 599 though

[NomisR]

Doesn't quite explain how the car lapped faster than a 599 though

Really good driver and some aero w/ slicks? 

[68_427]

It's using the stock tires and aero.

[NomisR]

It's using the stock tires and aero.

Driver?  :huh?

[SVT666]

Driver?  :huh?

You don't think Ferrari was using a really good driver?

[NomisR]

You don't think Ferrari was using a really good driver?

Even better one?  Weather conditions?  There's various things that can effect lap time.

[GoCougs]

The 599 GTB is a GT not a track star.

[SVT666]

Even better one?

Sure.  Ferrari has access to the best drivers in the world.

Weather conditions?  There's various things that can effect lap time.

Absolutely.  That's why a few seconds on a lap this long and done on different days should be viewed as pretty much a tie.  If it's like 20 seconds, that's one thing, but 2 or 3 seconds?  No.

[SVT666]

The 599 GTB is a GT not a track star.

The GTB is still a track star.  Motor Trend even said it was the most track focused car and the closest thing to a race car in a comparison test with the ZR1, GT-R, and 911 GT2.

[El Barto]

You don't think Ferrari was using a really good driver?

The time for the 599 was from when Sport Auto (German magazine) tested it, it was driven by one of their editors.

[NomisR]

The time for the 599 was from when Sport Auto (German magazine) tested it, it was driven by one of their editors.

There you go.. but why are we comparing track times for different cars at different times by different drivers?  That's the worse type of magazing racing you can do.

[SVT666]

There you go.. but why are we comparing track times for different cars at different times by different drivers?  That's the worse type of magazing racing you can do.

It's a pretty good indicator as to how your car stacks up give or take a few seconds.

[SVT666]

The time for the 599 was from when Sport Auto (German magazine) tested it, it was driven by one of their editors.

Oh okay.  Well you could probably shave about 20 seconds off that time with a professional driver.

[Payman]

None of this lessens the impressivness of the time laid down by a 4120 lb muscle car.

[NomisR]

It's a pretty good indicator as to how your car stacks up give or take a few seconds.

Not always, especially if different drivers.  I've seen one driver in a completely stock N/A Elise, run just as fast as someone else in a S/C Exige S in the W2W LCS races.  Both experience driver, the Elise driver is just that much better. 

So YMMV. 

[Onslaught]

Not always, especially if different drivers.  I've seen one driver in a completely stock N/A Elise, run just as fast as someone else in a S/C Exige S in the W2W LCS races.  Both experience driver, the Elise driver is just that much better. 

So YMMV. 

I agree that driver, weather, temp and all kinds of shit can make a big difference. That said, this is a fast fucking lap.

[sportyaccordy]

There you go.. but why are we comparing track times for different cars at different times by different drivers?  That's the worse type of magazing racing you can do.

Every 'Ring time is like that, and people love to use those as standards.

I really wonder for whom these lap times make a difference, as far as actually pushing the button