"Snapshot"

[Laconian]

How about placing it in a gyroscopically stabilized, spring dampened box with six degrees of freedom?

Or put the Yaris in a huge paint shaker. Alex was onto something.

[2o6]

So guys who get stuck in snow must really get the short end of the stick.

[Laconian]

Is it based 100% on OBD2 data, or does it have its own sensors?

Makes me want to program an OBD2 emulator...

[2o6]

Is it based 100% on OBD2 data, or does it have its own sensors?

Makes me want to program an OBD2 emulator...

100% OBDII data, plus a wireless transmitter to the internet.

[Laconian]

! I'd happily hijack that Internet...

[Rupert]

Grab one off a friend's car and hook it up to a demo-derby car for a prank.

Pretty sure demo derby cars don't have an OBD port.

[280Z Turbo]

Pretty sure demo derby cars don't have an OBD port.

Plug it into the carburetor.

[Rupert]

[Madman]

Pretty sure demo derby cars don't have an OBD port.

Anything built since 1996 will have an OBD II port.  There's gotta be some some late '90s clunkers finding their way into demo derbys by now?

[Raza]

I'd never let one of these in my car. EZPass, however, makes toll booths so much quicker and easier that I rationalize it. I have one in my car.

Personally, I think they should be illegal.  Anything that requires you to mount on your windshield should be illegal. 

[CJ]

My Toll Tag is very high up on my windshield, so it doesn't bug me.

[2o6]

77 hard brakes today, and it's barely 5PM.

[Laconian]

Solution: never use the brakes.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Solution: never use the brakes.

Safe drivers don't brake.

[2o6]

I unerolled from this crap.


And to add insult to injury, they asked if I was a homeowner (they put "homeowner" by default) and since I said no, my rates went up 10$.  '


After six months, I don't think I will renew.

[280Z Turbo]

Safe drivers don't brake.

Get yourself some Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports and you don't need brakes.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Get yourself some Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports and you don't need brakes.

Extra, extra rolling resistance?

[280Z Turbo]

Extra, extra rolling resistance?

Could be. I don't know. I just know that I haven't gone fast enough to get any understeer in the dry yet. No need to brake for turns.

[Raza]

77 hard brakes today, and it's barely 5PM.

I don't recall how many of us told you this was a dumb idea.

[ergodic]

Wah... I was actually considering this too. Then the wife said something about me being dumb... Seems she was right?

[hotrodalex]

77 hard brakes today, and it's barely 5PM.

LOL

[Speed_Racer]

77 hard brakes today, and it's barely 5PM.

How is that even possible?

[280Z Turbo]

How is that even possible?

If you were driving a full loaded semi instead of a Yaris it would be hard braking.

[2o6]

How is that even possible?

Read the description of what Progressive considers a "Hard brake".

[Rupert]

Anything built since 1996 will have an OBD II port.  There's gotta be some some late '90s clunkers finding their way into demo derbys by now?

No way. Nothing built after the '80s is demo derby fodder. Not enough body on frame.

[2o6]

The math on this is screwed up. If I came from a stop from 20MPH, I need three full seconds. 

[dazzleman]

I actually started a thread on "snapshot" a while back - months ago.

I hate the idea.  I think we're monitored too much already.  There's something scary and creepy about it.

I wonder what their criteria could possibly be in determining that ridiculous number of hard stops they came up with.  Are you sure the device isn't defective?

[2o6]

I actually started a thread on "snapshot" a while back - months ago.

I hate the idea.  I think we're monitored too much already.  There's something scary and creepy about it.

I wonder what their criteria could possibly be in determining that ridiculous number of hard stops they came up with.  Are you sure the device isn't defective?

No, I drive a lot of stop-and-go.

[dazzleman]

No, I drive a lot of stop-and-go.

Either you jerk the car around a lot, or they have a very expansive definition of a hard stop.

[2o6]

Either you jerk the car around a lot, or they have a very expansive definition of a hard stop.

Did you read the OP of what a hard brake is?

I suppose, however the device does not have GPS. It has no knowledge of speed limits or anything like that. Basically if I drive smoothly, I get rewarded for this. No hard braking (Progressive bills this as being a drop of over 7mph in one second).

So let's see that means ten seconds and 513 feet, to brake to a standstill from 70 MPH   Good luck with that if you have to drive in any kind of traffic.

If you are going 35, it would take 5 seconds and 128 feet to come to a complete stop.

I can't see that happening in the real world.