Next gen Mustang getting more modern look

Started by Mustangfan2003, April 16, 2012, 02:41:21 PM

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For the last decade, auto makers have connected with baby boomers by recreating storied cars from their youth like the VW Beetle, Chevrolet Camaro and Dodge Challenger.

Now, Ford Motor Co. is betting it is time to hit the brakes on the retro trend, and shift its focus to a younger generation.

The Mustang, the Pony car that launched affordable and compact sports cars, today strongly hews to the look of the 1964 original. But Ford is working on radical makeover of its signature youth-market car, people familiar with Ford?s plans said. The next generation would retain the shark-nosed grille and round headlights, but would look more like the new Ford Fusion than the current Mustang, these people said.

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The change is part of a bid to make the Mustang appeal to Generation Y, the roughly 80 million people who were born between 1980 and 1999. This demographic group is entering its peak car-buying years. Cars that their parents drive?and hark back to the days of Woodstock, 20 years before they were born?don?t really interest them.

?You cannot sustain sales without looking for new buyers. True, you are going to lose sales, but you need to refresh the population of buyers,? said Alexander Edwards, an analyst with Strategic Vision, a California research firm that helps auto companies understand why customers choose the vehicles they buy.

?The main goal that all automobile companies need to be successful at is, let?s prepare vehicles that the next generation will want to be in, but have all the other features that will still appeal to the older generation as well,? said Mr. Edwards.

For Ford, Gen Y may prove a difficult target. For many in this group, cars and driving just aren?t that cool in an era of iPads and Facebook. A 2011 study by the University of Michigan found that just two-thirds of all 18-year-olds had driver?s licenses in 2008, down from 80% in 1983.

Toyota Motor Corp. created a whole subbrand, Scion, to appeal to the Millennial Generation. But after some initial success, Scion sales are a third of the peak. Retro designs in particular don?t fly, either. Last year, VW sold just 6,468 Beetles in the U.S., compared with 81,134 in 2000. Last year, Chrysler Group LLC stopped making its retro car, the PT Cruiser.

The Mustang, which has had a strong retro look since 2005, is losing steam, too. Last year Ford sold 70,438, down 4.4% from 2010 and less than half the 166,530 it sold in 2006. Chevrolet?s redesigned Camaro and Chrysler?s Challenger each outsold their historical rival last month.

The new Mustang is due as a 2014 model, and will look somewhat like an Aston Martin, the high-price sports car often featured in James Bond movies. People who have seen the new Mustang said it is almost a body double for the Evos concept car that Ford showed at the Frankfurt auto show last fall.

A Ford spokesman said he couldn?t comment on Ford?s product plans for the Mustang.

Changing the Mustang?s look is a risky move for Ford because the car has such a big following, said Rebecca Lindland, an analyst with researcher IHS Automotive Inc. ?Ford has had so much success with [the retro Mustang], there is significant risk of going somewhat away from it,? she said. ?You have to evolve the design, but it is a risk to change it too fast or radically.?

Baby boomers are still an important demographic. They drove booms in minivans, sport-utility vehicles and luxury cars in addition to retro models. But with the oldest boomers now retired, that generation is near the end of its run as hard-charging car consumers.

The average Mustang buyer today is 51 years old, Mr. Edwards said. They fall into the category of ?near-luxury? consumers in terms of spending habits and tend to include more men than women. They like power and performance, he said.

Lee Stewart a 45-year-old accountant from Bristow, Va., just ordered a 2013 Mustang GT convertible, and loves the current, 1960s look. The Evos concept car, he added, is ?a beautiful automobile, but it isn?t a Mustang.?

The original Mustang launched a whole category of inexpensive, sporty cars with a uniquely American look. The vehicle was a pet project of then Ford Vice President Lee Iacocca, who kept it alive after Henry Ford II had rejected early concepts.

It hit the market as baby boomers were in their teens and its rapid success triggered a host of similarly, small, four-seater sports cars. General Motors Co. countered with its Camaro, and Chrysler added the Dodge Charger and Challenger. In a nod to the Mustang, they were known as ?Pony cars.?

In the 1970s, Detroit faced rising competition from small Japanese and fuel-economy regulations. The Big Three shrank their pony cars and changed their looks dramatically, and they all but faded from the roads by the late 1990s.

In 1998, Volkswagen AG tapped into boomer nostalgia when it reincarnated the Beetle. In 2005, the retro-style Mustang was launched and it was a hit.

But for Adam Perito, 32, a recruiter who is on the leading edge of Generation Y, the current Mustang is great and he is looking to buy one, but ?the new one looks pretty sweet. Maybe I should wait until it comes out.?

http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/04/16/mustang-makeover-what-does-ford-have-in-mind/

SVT666

 If you go back into the Ford Evos thread, I said it wouldn't surprise me if it would be the new Mustang.

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Quote from: SVT666 on April 16, 2012, 02:48:09 PM
If you go back into the Ford Evos thread, I said it wouldn't surprise me if it would be the new Mustang.

I remember

Pretty crazy that the Challenger outsold the Mustang last month
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I wouldn't mind to see one styled after the Evos concept, it's a handsome car and could be a bit of a poor mans Aston Martin. 

SVT666

Quote from: HotRodPilot on April 16, 2012, 02:52:04 PM
I remember

Pretty crazy that the Challenger outsold the Mustang last month
Yeah.  That's sad.  I don't get it.  The current Mustang is easily the best of the segment and looks amazing.

hotrodalex

I don't mind a more modern design, but I'd prefer an evolutionary design instead of redoing the whole thing at once.

ifcar

Quote from: HotRodPilot on April 16, 2012, 02:52:04 PM
I remember

Pretty crazy that the Challenger outsold the Mustang last month

:confused:

Mustang outsold the Challenger more than 2:1 last month -- 9,046 to 4,304 -- and almost always has a similar margin.

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Quote from: ifcar on April 16, 2012, 03:04:53 PM
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Mustang outsold the Challenger more than 2:1 last month -- 9,046 to 4,304 -- and almost always has a similar margin.
The article says the Challenger outsold the Mustang last month.  What were the sales figures for all three?

sportyaccordy

They can keep the same design, just make the car smaller. Prob the biggest thing they missed in the retro translation was the tininess and lightness of the original.

ifcar

Quote from: SVT666 on April 16, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
The article says the Challenger outsold the Mustang last month.  What were the sales figures for all three?

Camaro was 9,292, so narrowly ahead of the Mustang.

I wonder if the writer mixed up Charger and Challenger from Chrysler's sales results? To my knowledge, the current Challenger has never outsold the Mustang, and it usually isn't even close.

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Quote from: Raza  link=topic=27231.msg1704611#msg1704611 date=1334610576
I like it, I don't think I'd like it as a Mustang. 

Nope. That's more like a Ford Corvette Viper. Ford needs a Corvette Viper. Not a retro Thunderbird, a souped up Mustang, or an exotically priced repli-racecar, but a reasonably priced supercar-class 2-seater.
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Quote from: Raza  link=topic=27231.msg1704611#msg1704611 date=1334610576
I like it, I don't think I'd like it as a Mustang. 
The article states the headlights will still be round, so there wwill be changes.  Also, it has a FWD profile, so the hood will be longer.

hotrodalex

Quote from: Raza  on April 16, 2012, 03:09:36 PM
I like it, I don't think I'd like it as a Mustang. 

Yeah, it's more of a Fusion coupe or Cougar.

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This might be a wise move. The boomers who wanted to reminisce already got a retro-stang and the rest of the world is  :wtf:.
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Quote from: SVT666 on April 16, 2012, 03:05:57 PM


That looks terrible. 

No, it doesn't look bad it just doesn't look like a Mustang.  What's a Mustang look like?  Who knows, but not a sleek European sports car that's for sure.

GoCougs

Ford is gonna have to come up with something pretty slick. They'll probably have to dump the retro thing - failing to advance the brand found Ford simply owned by a better more successful Camaro. I don't hold out a lot of hope, at least styling wise, in seeing Ford's efforts the last 2-3 years.


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Quote from: GoCougs on April 16, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
Ford is gonna have to come up with something pretty slick. They'll probably have to dump the retro thing - failing to advance the brand found Ford simply owned by a better more successful Camaro. I don't hold out a lot of hope, at least styling wise, in seeing Ford's efforts the last 2-3 years.

Now you're trolling....

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Quote from: SVT666 on April 16, 2012, 02:55:39 PM
Yeah.  That's sad.  I don't get it.  The current Mustang is easily the best of the segment and looks amazing.

Personally, I'd buy this over the Mustang. The Challenger is a great car, and tops satisfaction surveys for a reason.


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Quote from: Rockraven on April 16, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
I would buy this as a Mustang.

To be completely honest, so would I. It might be a good move for Ford to leave the Camaro and Challenger behind to fight the retro battle amongst themselves, while they move the Mustang forward into a fresh new direction. But then again, someone could have said the exact same thing about a wedgy FWD turbo-4 sport compact in the late-80's.

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Quote from: GoCougs on April 16, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
Ford is gonna have to come up with something pretty slick. They'll probably have to dump the retro thing - failing to advance the brand found Ford simply owned by a better more successful Camaro. I don't hold out a lot of hope, at least styling wise, in seeing Ford's efforts the last 2-3 years.
Says the guy who has probably not driven either :rolleyes:. Save for the ZR1 (I haven't driven that one), they drive like boats and feel like one too. They have rather mediocre interiors as well.

Let us also keep in mind that the 2013, a restyled car, has not even hit lots yet.
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LonghornTX

Quote from: Rockraven on April 16, 2012, 10:10:55 PM
Personally, I'd buy this over the Mustang. The Challenger is a great car, and tops satisfaction surveys for a reason.


I would buy one, for a cruiser.
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GoCougs

Quote from: 2o6 on April 16, 2012, 09:04:51 PM
Now you're trolling....

Fusion? Taurus? Explorer? Flex? Ford even bland-ized the F150. About the only car they did okay on was the new Focus.

Styling hasn't been Ford's strong suit of late. That ain't trollin', son, that's there's opinion.

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Quote from: GoCougs on April 17, 2012, 04:58:37 AM
Fusion? Taurus? Explorer? Flex? Ford even bland-ized the F150. About the only car they did okay on was the new Focus.

Styling hasn't been Ford's strong suit of late. That ain't trollin', son, that's there's opinion.
You think the new Fusion is bland? WOW
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