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[Raza]

Yea I am not so sure you want to hear the stereotypes associated with VW drivers.

I had a coworker who had a GTI 337 for a while. The way he talked about the car you would think it was a Porsche. It was a fucking turbocharged MKIV for christ's sake, didn't even have VR6 pedigree.

In my experience the worst of VW owners tend to fall into two camps. Airhead rich daddy college girls, or dudes who feel they are too good to buy Japanese, but can't afford a Bimmer/Benzie. The worst. It is def strange to scoff at Scion for its image but own a VW. The VW scene is prob the worst of them all.

Never saw it that way.  Volkswagens are marketed to the annoyingly hip type, people with turtlenecks and glasses.  And they're a much more respectable brand than Scion.  Sure, I know the people you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure it's the minority and most people don't view them that way. 

And the MkIV 1.8Ts were quicker than the VR6s. 

[Lebowski]

There is no difference between a Scion Dealer and a normal Toyota dealer. When I went to drive the xD, it was exactly the same as the Toyota dealer, but with the addition of "no haggle pricing". You guys are being total retards.

Maybe I'm missing your point but I don't see that they are sold in the same building has anything to do with anything.

A Yaris and a Land Cruiser are also sold at the same dealerships - do you think Toyota is targeting the same buyer for both?  

Brand management isn't really restricted by the building the vehicles are sold out of. Sorry, but scions are very heavily geared towards young drivers.

[CALL_911]

Yea I am not so sure you want to hear the stereotypes associated with VW drivers.

I had a coworker who had a GTI 337 for a while. The way he talked about the car you would think it was a Porsche. It was a fucking turbocharged MKIV for christ's sake, didn't even have VR6 pedigree.

In my experience the worst of VW owners tend to fall into two camps. Airhead rich daddy college girls, or dudes who feel they are too good to buy Japanese, but can't afford a Bimmer/Benzie. The worst. It is def strange to scoff at Scion for its image but own a VW. The VW scene is prob the worst of them all.

Hahahah this coming from a Honda guy

[Raza]

Hahahah this coming from a Honda guy

Lots of stereotypes to go around, that much is true.

[Eye of the Tiger]

The only Hyundai stereotype I know of is that it is for people who are smart with money. 

[sportyaccordy]

Hahahah this coming from a Honda guy

I don't deny the douchebaggery within the Honda scene. The difference is, I don't care. The only brands that don't have stigmas attached to them are brands that dont make cars for enthusiasts. If you are scared of what people will think of you in your car buy a Camry.

And they're a much more respectable brand than Scion.

By who? It really comes down to the owner. VW is a very "aspirational" brand, which can be a negative thing to some folks. Like I said the way dude was talking you would think the car was a modern 928. Its an economy car w/a nice interior.

Sure, I know the people you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure it's the minority and most people don't view them that way.

Right, avg folks don't view them that way. But avg folks don't matter. Car guys count, and I am certain most car guys who know anything about the modern VW scene have made an association between VW and the goofy stretched tire crowd.  

And the MkIV 1.8Ts were quicker than the VR6s.  

VR6s in the same year had a good amount more power and little to no more weight. Only exception was the 337, which can't be compared to anything, according to my old coworker.

Man that dude was a douchebag.

[Rich]

So what brands have "good" "stereotypes"?

[hotrodalex]

So what brands have "good" "stereotypes"?

Aston Martin, Lotus, maybe?

[Soup DeVille]

So what brands have "good" "stereotypes"?

Oshkosh, AM General, BAE?

[2o6]

Maybe I'm missing your point but I don't see that they are sold in the same building has anything to do with anything.

A Yaris and a Land Cruiser are also sold at the same dealerships - do you think Toyota is targeting the same buyer for both?  

Brand management isn't really restricted by the building the vehicles are sold out of. Sorry, but scions are very heavily geared towards young drivers.

Not my point. You guys make it sound as if theyre playing dub step an using slang in selling he car. In reality, there is no much difference than any other dealer, in fact Scion treated me better than any other competitor's dealer with a similar model.

[Lebowski]

Not my point. You guys make it sound as if theyre playing dub step an using slang in selling he car. In reality, there is no much difference than any other dealer, in fact Scion treated me better than any other competitor's dealer with a similar model.

It's nothing to do with how the dealer treats you, it's just that the brand is marketed toward 16 year olds. Nothing wrong with that, it is what it is, but I'd be reluctant to buy one.

[SVT666]

I had to look up what dub step is.  Youtube came up with this video...which is absolutely unreal, though the "music" leaves a lot to be desired.

[Raza]

So what brands have "good" "stereotypes"?

None.   

[Eye of the Tiger]

None.   

Tudor watches?

[sportyaccordy]

Tudor watches?

But the craftsmanship. I get to appreciate it every time I wind it up. It stays pretty close to my Iphone clock for almost 3-4 days.

[Raza]

Tudor watches?

Even those have a negative stereotype.  "For those who can't afford a Rolex"...much like the Boxster stereotype, it's largely unfounded with a kernel of truth.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Even those have a negative stereotype.  "For those who can't afford a Rolex"...much like the Boxster stereotype, it's largely unfounded with a kernel of truth.

Rolexs are mostly ugly. All the Tudors are great looking. You should get a Fastrider.

[Soup DeVille]

Fuck that.

Timex, Seiko and Casio make up my trifecta of watches.

[280Z Turbo]

Fuck that.

Timex, Seiko and Casio make up my trifecta of watches.

^Has a 1980's Casio calculator watch^

[MX793]

^Has a 1980's Casio calculator watch^

Those were awesome.

[CALL_911]

^Has a 1980's Casio calculator watch^

I have one of those too.

[Soup DeVille]

^Has a 1980's Casio calculator watch^

I'm jealous.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I'm jealous.

I'd only be jealous if it was gold, with the elastic gold bracelet.

[280Z Turbo]

I'm jealous.

I was referring to you, not me.

I am disappointed you don't have one.

[Soup DeVille]

I was referring to you, not me.

I am disappointed you don't have one.

That makes two of us.

[Soup DeVille]

I'd only be jealous if it was gold, with the elastic gold bracelet.

I'd never wear it if it was gold.

[850CSi]

So what brands have "good" "stereotypes"?

[thewizard16]

You do Yoga?

Is that so surprising?  How do you think I'm able to stay so fucking mellow and zen?

I just thought you drank a lot.

This may be one of my favorite short conversations on Carspin ever.

[S204STi]

[2o6]

Hah no!