Time for a new car

[Payman]

http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/a/Hyundai/Genesis/SURREY/British%20Columbia/5_12743177_20110510061831423/

[CJ]

Those are really holding their value.

[Payman]

Those are really holding their value.

It's a $50,000 car up here when new, so this one is a fantastic buy. It'll be hard for Craig to find a better car (+better warranty) with everything it offers for the money.

My other recommendation is a year old Kia Optima 2.0T... should be about the same $Canada.

[SVT666]

http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/a/Hyundai/Genesis/SURREY/British%20Columbia/5_12743177_20110510061831423/

I don't know.  It has never grown on me.  The styling is very "old man" to me, and every review I've read says that it's soft with no sporting intentions.

[Payman]

I don't know.  It has never grown on me.  The styling is very "old man" to me, and every review I've read says that it's soft with no sporting intentions.

Never driven one, but I'd test one if I were you. Soft and powerful can be better than hard-as-fuck and powerful. You ain't no spring chicken anymore. Plus, I think it looks "Transporter" bad-ass in black.

[SVT666]

You're right about that.  I'm already starting to complain about how loud my Focus is. 

[nickdrinkwater]

Passat.

[565]

Acura RL.  For serious it is a good car.

[SVT666]

Acura RL.  For serious it is a good car.

35 Acura RL's were sold in Canada last year.  Not likely to find one even if I wanted one.

[ifcar]

35 Acura RL's were sold in Canada last year.  Not likely to find one even if I wanted one.

It was effectively discontinued by that point. The earlier ones should be easy enough to find.

[Northlands]

It's a $50,000 car up here when new, so this one is a fantastic buy. It'll be hard for Craig to find a better car (+better warranty) with everything it offers for the money.

My other recommendation is a year old Kia Optima 2.0T... should be about the same $Canada.

I like that suggestion too. Pretty slick machine. C&D liked it. I may test drive one soon for myself. It's certainly easy on the eyes and has a lot of standard equipment.

[SVT666]

I like that suggestion too. Pretty slick machine. C&D liked it. I may test drive one soon for myself. It's certainly easy on the eyes and has a lot of standard equipment.

The only problem is that I can't get what I'm looking for in my price range, because 2011 was the first year for it.

[Payman]

Brand new 2012 Optima EX 2.0 Turbo, $29,600. Couldn't find a 2011 turbo, but if you could I'm sure it'll be right in your price range, especially an American model.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Kia/Optima/GEORGETOWN/Ontario/5_13639998_ON20080206114620836/?ursrc=hl

[Payman]

Sweet. Black EX turbo with 8000 miles for $23,000.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=90210&endYear=2012&modelCode1=OPTIMA&showcaseOwnerId=1380345&startYear=2011&makeCode1=KIA&listingType=used&sellerType=d&searchRadius=0&maxPrice=25000&minPrice=22000&listingId=320376211&Log=0

[Payman]

Holy hell! Look at the options on it! 

Vehicle Description

Options Installed
4 wheel disc brakes
ABS brakes
AM/FM radio
Adjustable head restraints: driver and passenger w/tilt
Air conditioning
Anti-whiplash front head restraints
Auto-dimming rearview mirror
Automatic temperature control
Brake assist
Bumpers: body-color
CD player
Compass
Delay-off headlights
Door mirrors: body-color
Driver door bin
Driver vanity mirror
Dual front impact airbags
Dual front side impact airbags
Electronic stability
Front beverage holders
Front bucket seats
Front center armrest
Front dual zone A/C
Front fog lights
Front reading lights
Fully automatic headlights
Garage door transmitter: HomeLink
Heated door mirrors
Ignition disable
Illuminated entry
Leather upholstery
Low tire pressure warning
MP3 decoder
Occupant sensing airbag
Outside temperature display
Overhead airbag
Overhead console
Panic alarm
Passenger door bin
Passenger vanity mirror
Perimeter/approach lights
Power door mirrors
Power driver seat
Power windows
Rear bench seats
Rear beverage holders
Rear door bins
Rear reading lights
Rear seat center armrest
Rear window defroster
Remote keyless entry
Security system
Speakers: 6
Speed control
Split folding rear seat
Steering wheel mounted audio controls
Tachometer
Telescoping steering wheel
Tilt steering wheel
Traction control
Trip computer
Turn signal indicator mirrors
Variably intermittent wipers
Wireless phone connectivity
Seller's Description and Comments
Turbo, Leather... LION COUNTRY KIA LOWEST PRICE PROMISE! We research the current used vehicle market daily and promise our prices are the lowest against any local franchised dealer, same model, trim, condition, and mileage. Contact us today to experience the Lion Country Kia difference! Check out our inventory at www.lioncountrykia.com for a FREE vehicle history report!

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I would say go with the G8 GT but it no way in hell you'll get 26 mpg.

[SVT666]

Holy hell! Look at the options on it! 

Vehicle Description

Options Installed
4 wheel disc brakes
ABS brakes
AM/FM radio
Adjustable head restraints: driver and passenger w/tilt
Air conditioning
Anti-whiplash front head restraints
Auto-dimming rearview mirror
Automatic temperature control
Brake assist
Bumpers: body-color
CD player
Compass
Delay-off headlights
Door mirrors: body-color
Driver door bin
Driver vanity mirror
Dual front impact airbags
Dual front side impact airbags
Electronic stability
Front beverage holders
Front bucket seats
Front center armrest
Front dual zone A/C
Front fog lights
Front reading lights
Fully automatic headlights
Garage door transmitter: HomeLink
Heated door mirrors
Ignition disable
Illuminated entry
Leather upholstery
Low tire pressure warning
MP3 decoder
Occupant sensing airbag
Outside temperature display
Overhead airbag
Overhead console
Panic alarm
Passenger door bin
Passenger vanity mirror
Perimeter/approach lights
Power door mirrors
Power driver seat
Power windows
Rear bench seats
Rear beverage holders
Rear door bins
Rear reading lights
Rear seat center armrest
Rear window defroster
Remote keyless entry
Security system
Speakers: 6
Speed control
Split folding rear seat
Steering wheel mounted audio controls
Tachometer
Telescoping steering wheel
Tilt steering wheel
Traction control
Trip computer
Turn signal indicator mirrors
Variably intermittent wipers
Wireless phone connectivity
Seller's Description and Comments
Turbo, Leather... LION COUNTRY KIA LOWEST PRICE PROMISE! We research the current used vehicle market daily and promise our prices are the lowest against any local franchised dealer, same model, trim, condition, and mileage. Contact us today to experience the Lion Country Kia difference! Check out our inventory at www.lioncountrykia.com for a FREE vehicle history report!

Sounds great, but that's a 4 day drive.  Not for a Kia.  Maybe a BMW, but not a Kia.

[Payman]

Sounds great, but that's a 4 day drive.  Not for a Kia.  Maybe a BMW, but not a Kia.

Stop in for beer and brats! 

[Payman]

Just wanted to show that they can be had in your $$$ range.

[SVT666]

Just wanted to show that they can be had in your $$$ range.

Nothing at all in BC that I can find.  I can find them in the US, but honestly, I would rather have a 2008 BMW 528i or a 2009 Mustang GT Vert for the same price.

[Northlands]

Before Honda turned Acura into the Cyborg Mask Convention, the 2008 TL's looked alright. 3.2 V6 ( yes, FWD though..) Hits all the options you want. There's a couple kicking around here for 23-24k.

[Payman]

DO IT!

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/BMW/8%20Series/TORONTO/Ontario/5_13768794_ON20071205105712467/

[BimmerM3]

Life-cycle injection, fancy BMW speak for a facelift.

Actually, I can see a 528i being fine, seeing as it wasn't a new engine for 2008 (it's pretty much the same thing as the old 525i/530i). We had a 535xi, which gave my dad problems.

My dad had issues with his 535i (Sport package, if anyone cares) too, but it was a common problem and BMW seems to have finally figured it out and fixed the problem on most cars. I forget what the exact problem was (something to do with the high pressure fuel system, I think), but they're probably more reliable now than when they were new if the problem was fixed. Definitely get some proof that it was fixed though.

To be honest, I haven't driven a 528i for comparison, but I love the engine in the 535i. I don't know if you could find one within his constraints though.

[SVT666]

No, 535i and 335i are still pretty pricey.

[MX793]

It's a $50,000 car up here when new, so this one is a fantastic buy. It'll be hard for Craig to find a better car (+better warranty) with everything it offers for the money.

My other recommendation is a year old Kia Optima 2.0T... should be about the same $Canada.

The Hyundai 10y/100K Mile warranty is non-transferable.  It defaults to a 5y/60K (from date of manufacture) when the original owner sells the car.

[omicron]

http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?R=12554041&__Qpb=1&Cr=1&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&MileageTo=750&__N=834%201216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294966285%204294966463%20393%20413%20246%20750%204294794458&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=13&__sid=13719F875280

Done.

[SVT666]

I hate you Omi.

[mzziaz]

Get a Mustang, you retard.

[SVT666]

A Mustang vert is in the running, but my wife is really leaning toward a 328i.  I'm bouncing from one to the other.  We have to go drive them with the kids in tow to ensure the Mustang has room.

[Northlands]

http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?R=12554041&__Qpb=1&Cr=1&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&MileageTo=750&__N=834%201216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294966285%204294966463%20393%20413%20246%20750%204294794458&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=13&__sid=13719F875280

Done.

Man, that's just RUDE!