MrH's BRZ Thread

[Cookie Monster]

Technically this should have made the car understeer more. 

The fact that its doing the opposite and that I know the stock suspension is made to corner on the bump stops and the rear shocks on the nc have little travel - I would wager your in coil bind or even worse shock bind during hard cornering... probably causing you to spin out alot.

I doubt anything is binding as that would make the car pretty undrivable over bumps (so anything on the street essentially). I think the rear bar is too stiff. I may try moving the links to the innermost position to see if that'll get rid of my oversteer.

[SJ_GTI]

You should see if Koni makes a set of FSD shocks for your model car. When I bought my GTI way back when it had the 4x4 ride height so I got it lowered quite a bit. I put the Koni FSD's on and after all was said and done the ride was MORE comfortable (except for really big bumps). They have lasted a long time too, my younger brother still has that GTI and the shocks are still as good today as when I put them on (just drove it a couple months ago).

http://www.koni.com/car-racing/technology/fsd-frequency-selective-damping/

[r0tor]

I doubt anything is binding as that would make the car pretty undrivable over bumps (so anything on the street essentially). I think the rear bar is too stiff. I may try moving the links to the innermost position to see if that'll get rid of my oversteer.

You get more travel during hard cornering then hitting a bump

[MrH]

Small world.  I actually e-mailed FatCat motorsports back when I had my miata.  I was trying to put together some marketing material for them in exchange for a discount, but they weren't interested

Those Koni shocks look interesting.  Basically, a mechanical adjustable damping.  How do you change over damping rates though?  Is it a mechanical valve that closes based on what it's reading from the road?  Do you have a switch somewhere?

[hotrodalex]

Those Koni shocks look interesting.  Basically, a mechanical adjustable damping.  How do you change over damping rates though?  Is it a mechanical valve that closes based on what it's reading from the road?  Do you have a switch somewhere?

From one of the links at the bottom:

"In standard shock absorbers the main damping characteristic is defined by the oil flow (I) going through the piston assembly.

Combining it with the FSD feature, KONl added a special valve which is able to control a parallel oil flow next to the one going through the piston. This parallel oil flow (II) is closed by the FSD feature, giving a rise in damping force almost linear to the time that the piston is moving in one direction.

Put simply: the FSD feature is a hydraulic amplifier that delays the build up of pressure. One could say that an extra tuning option has been created in order to get the best possible combination of handling and comfort. Since it is an integrated part of the hydraulic valve system inside the damper, no additional cables, sensors or any other electronic devices are needed to operate an FSD damper."

[280Z Turbo]

Did you drive the BRZ in the winter? I'm trying to decide if I should keep the Focus to take on the ferrous oxide punishment.

[hotrodalex]

It's not 1980 anymore. Just spray it off every week at one of those do it yourself car washes.

[MX793]

It's not 1980 anymore. Just spray it off every week at one of those do it yourself car washes.

I see plenty of newer cars starting to rust due to winter salt.  My Mazda started rusting after 3 winters despite frequent washes.

[Soup DeVille]

I see plenty of newer cars starting to rust due to winter salt.  My Mazda started rusting after 3 winters despite frequent washes.

They hold up a lot better than they used to, but it sounds like your car had something wrong with the finish.

[Soup DeVille]

Small world.  I actually e-mailed FatCat motorsports back when I had my miata.  I was trying to put together some marketing material for them in exchange for a discount, but they weren't interested

Those Koni shocks look interesting.  Basically, a mechanical adjustable damping.  How do you change over damping rates though?  Is it a mechanical valve that closes based on what it's reading from the road?  Do you have a switch somewhere?

There's generally an inertial valve that acts as a flow control: the quicker the piston moves, the farther the valve moves. By putting sepertae srings on the top and the bottom, bound and rebound can be tuned seperately.

[hotrodalex]

They hold up a lot better than they used to, but it sounds like your car had something wrong with the finish.

Considering our Mazda6 has rust problems, I think it's just a general Mazda issue.

Good thing BRZs aren't Mazdas!

[68_427]

Subaru's are just as bad.

[280Z Turbo]

I don't think so.

I looked up some high mileage 2000 model year Subarus nearby and they looked pretty good compared to the Focus.

[68_427]

Mine is terrible

[S204STi]

Focus paint was terrible.

[Secret Chimp]

They hold up a lot better than they used to, but it sounds like your car had something wrong with the finish.

I've heard this is a common problem on 3s in rustbelt states.

[giant_mtb]

It's not 1980 anymore. Just spray it off every week at one of those do it yourself car washes.

Noooooooooo

[hotrodalex]

Noooooooooo

What?

And stop ruining my argument or he'll never get a fun car!

[280Z Turbo]

People like Chris make me want to avoid new cars. Excessive concern for swirl marks, dings, and nicks just ruins it for me. I just want to drive a car and not worry about that shit. It's depressing.

[hotrodalex]

I'm the same way. My car drives me crazy. But it's teaching me to just let go of perfection and enjoy it.

[CALL_911]

People like Chris make me want to avoid new cars. Excessive concern for swirl marks, dings, and nicks just ruins it for me. I just want to drive a car and not worry about that shit. It's depressing.

.....so do it

Cars are meant to be driven. Some like them clean, which is fine, but it's not a necessity.

[280Z Turbo]

I want a clean car. However, the idea that if I don't spend hours excessively cleaning it, the car is ruined forever is hard to shake.

[CALL_911]

I want a clean car. However, the idea that if I don't spend hours excessively cleaning it, the car is ruined forever is hard to shake.

Fuck it, that's how I felt when my car was new. While I still wash+wax it fairly regularly, I don't care nearly as much as I used to.

[280Z Turbo]

What I really want to do is take my car to an automatic car wash. I basically have no other option anyway.

[CALL_911]

What I really want to do is take my car to an automatic car wash. I basically have no other option anyway.

So do it, it would scratch your clearcoat but who cares

[280Z Turbo]

So do it, it would scratch your clearcoat but who cares

You're not helping!

[Soup DeVille]

So do it, it would scratch your clearcoat but who cares

The touchless ones are pretty good at not doing that.

[MrH]

Did you drive the BRZ in the winter? I'm trying to decide if I should keep the Focus to take on the ferrous oxide punishment.

Yes, I drove it through the winter.  Blizzaks on the stock wheels.  Not the best in the snow, but I managed just fine.

Just take the shit through the touchless car wash every week or two during the winter.  It's not that big of a deal.  Let's be honest, I'm not going to keep this car forever.  It'll hold up fine with probably no rust for 8 years easily.

Stop being such a little bitch about it.  "I want a new car but I don't want to take care of it, I just want it to look like I take care of it.  Waaaaaah"

[Cookie Monster]

I want a clean car. However, the idea that if I don't spend hours excessively cleaning it, the car is ruined forever is hard to shake.

But it's not ruined forever.

[280Z Turbo]

Stop being such a little bitch about it.  "I want a new car but I don't want to take care of it, I just want it to look like I take care of it.  Waaaaaah"

You're an asshole