MrH's BRZ Thread

[Eye of the Tiger]

Front needs to come down about 5-7mm more still.  The rear is about perfect.

You don't tune with ride height, you tune with corner weights. Suspension engineer my ass.
Car looks great, though.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

You don't tune with ride height, you tune with corner weights. Suspension engineer my ass.
Car looks great, though.

No shit, right. What an amateur.

How much spring should he cut off to bring the front down?

Personally since it's all ready installed I'd just heat the spring a bit and get it to drop the front down just a smidge.

[Eye of the Tiger]

No shit, right. What an amateur.

How much spring should he cut off to bring the front down?

Personally since it's all ready installed I'd just heat the spring a bit and get it to drop the front down just a smidge.

Just keep cutting the spring in half until it works. It is a logarithmic half life type thing.

[MrH]

Whats the actual difference between the pss9 and pss10 anyway?

PSS = Adjustable height, non-adjustable damping
PSS9 = 9 steps of adjustability
PSS10 = 10 steps of adjustability

Basically, the PSS10 replaced the PSS9.  Just a new piston rod design that offers more adjustability.

What do you have for tires on there.

Also, I see you park out back with all the VW tools. I'm sorry.

245 width Pilot Super Sports.  About half the car guys I work with are big VW fans.

Is it a rule where everyone must back into their spaces?

Nice looking car.  I always love Subies in that blue.

The GTI guy parked like that in the corner.  Then Paul Walker died.  So I parked next to him like an ass hat and declared it the RIP Paul Walker Memorial Car Show, so everyone parked like a moron.  I don't know why, but it still happens.

[MrH]

OK, coilovers are on, it's aligned and ride height set. Running about 2.1 degrees on camber on the front, 1.6 and 2.1 in the rear.  There's no adjustment in the rear unless you buy adjustable control arms. I think the asymmetry is due to the sub frame placement at the factory originally.

There are stock brz's with over a degree of camber difference in the rear. Eventually I'll get adjustable rear control arms, but not right now.

Looks I'll be doing a track day at Mid Ohio this summer, and a handful of autoX days. We've got a guy with a quad copter and go pro setup coming with us to Mid Ohio, so hopefully I'll get some bad ass sideways drifts in slo mo from the sky

Tore up a stud and lug nut during the install. Long story, but I'll end up putting a new stud in sometime soon.

[MexicoCityM3]

OK, coilovers are on, it's aligned and ride height set. Running about 2.1 degrees on camber on the front, 1.6 and 2.1 in the rear.  There's no adjustment in the rear unless you buy adjustable control arms. I think the asymmetry is due to the sub frame placement at the factory originally.

There are stock brz's with over a degree of camber difference in the rear. Eventually I'll get adjustable rear control arms, but not right now.

Looks I'll be doing a track day at Mid Ohio this summer, and a handful of autoX days. We've got a guy with a quad copter and go pro setup coming with us to Mid Ohio, so hopefully I'll get some bad ass sideways drifts in slo mo from the sky

Tore up a stud and lug nut during the install. Long story, but I'll end up putting a new stud in sometime soon.

Nice. How's the ride compared to stock?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

OK, coilovers are on, it's aligned and ride height set. Running about 2.1 degrees on camber on the front, 1.6 and 2.1 in the rear.  There's no adjustment in the rear unless you buy adjustable control arms. I think the asymmetry is due to the sub frame placement at the factory originally.

There are stock brz's with over a degree of camber difference in the rear. Eventually I'll get adjustable rear control arms, but not right now.

Looks I'll be doing a track day at Mid Ohio this summer, and a handful of autoX days. We've got a guy with a quad copter and go pro setup coming with us to Mid Ohio, so hopefully I'll get some bad ass sideways drifts in slo mo from the sky

Tore up a stud and lug nut during the install. Long story, but I'll end up putting a new stud in sometime soon.

They let some guy fly a quad cop around when people are on the track? Sounds pretty nuts to me.

I'd like to try and hit up mid-ohio/blackhawk farms and a few others out that way.

[Soup DeVille]

They let some guy fly a quad cop around when people are on the track? Sounds pretty nuts to me.

I'd like to try and hit up mid-ohio/blackhawk farms and a few others out that way.

A lot of the newer ones you don't fly so much as you instruct them where to go.

[MrH]

Nice. How's the ride compared to stock?

Small bumps it soaks better than stock.  Don't even feel them.  The bigger modulations though are pretty damn rough.  Things are still a bit springy in the front, so I'll keep cranking the shocks stiffer until it feels right.  It's too cold to take it out for now.

They let some guy fly a quad cop around when people are on the track? Sounds pretty nuts to me.

I'd like to try and hit up mid-ohio/blackhawk farms and a few others out that way.

We haven't confirmed yet, but we're going to try   Turns out we're going to Putnam instead of Mid Ohio.  About the same distance away, but Putnam has miles of grass is every direction.  If you lose it there, you're not slamming into a wall at least.

A lot of the newer ones you don't fly so much as you instruct them where to go.

Yeah, this guy's setup is pretty crazy.  Super stable, can take off and land anywhere.

[MrH]

BRZ feels a lot better now that everything is settled.  Still need to fiddle with the fronts a little.  Haven't touched the limits of it yet   Cold tires and an unfamiliar setup has me a little cautious.  Once it's warm, I'll push it a bit more.

I'm dropping it off at the Subaru dealership tomorrow.  New taillights (current ones have a ton of moisture in them.  Common problem on the early ones), GPS TSB so it locks onto satellites quicker, and picking up a new wheel stud.

[Secret Chimp]

WHEEL STUD YEAH!

[MrH]

The trash talking has already begun.  AutoX test and tune is coming up, and then the first autoX of the season.  Turns out a ton of us at work are all in STX.

The lowly co-op thinks his Mazdaspeed3 with just tires will beat me in the BRZ with wheels, tires, and coilovers.  Any good shame bets we should place on this?

[68_427]

The trash talking has already begun.  AutoX test and tune is coming up, and then the first autoX of the season.  Turns out a ton of us at work are all in STX.

The lowly co-op thinks his Mazdaspeed3 with just tires will beat me in the BRZ with wheels, tires, and coilovers.  Any good shame bets we should place on this?

Have him carry all your gear in his mommy mobile

[MrH]

Have him carry all your gear in his mommy mobile

By gear, you mean my helmet and gloves?  Pshh, that's weak.

I was thinking loser had to take the SAT.  You gotta pay the money, and spend six hours at a high school taking the test

[MX793]

Raw time or PAX adjusted?  DS has a far more favorable PAX than STX, assuming he's not running R comps.  And what is the Mazda running for tires?

[AutobahnSHO]

I was thinking loser had to take the SAT.  You gotta pay the money, and spend six hours at a high school taking the test

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA that's AWESOME. You should designate the locale for the test, or he could just go to a college...

[MrH]

Non-adjusted.  What kind of pansy uses a handicap?  And no, he's not even close to running R comps.  Just some all seasons, nothing too wide either.

[r0tor]

Any chance you could get me the info on what oem parts I would need to complete the pss9 setup for the rx8?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Non-adjusted.  What kind of pansy uses a handicap?  And no, he's not even close to running R comps.  Just some all seasons, nothing too wide either.

You will when some guy shows up in an atom.

Then all of a sudden it's handicap this and adjustment that.

[MX793]

Non-adjusted.  What kind of pansy uses a handicap?  And no, he's not even close to running R comps.  Just some all seasons, nothing too wide either.

How much AX experience does he have compared to you?  From my experience, speed3s are very good AX cars out of the box.  I haven't seen a modded FRBRZ run, but I have not been blown away by what they can do when stock.

[Rich]

How much AX experience does he have compared to you?  From my experience, speed3s are very good AX cars out of the box.  I haven't seen a modded FRBRZ run, but I have not been blown away by what they can do when stock.

+1  Torque and FWD are not a bad combo on autoX.  Mazda dude is running all seasons though so I think you both will be a wash.

[MrH]

Any chance you could get me the info on what oem parts I would need to complete the pss9 setup for the rx8?

http://cart.bilsteinus.com/pdfs/E4-WM4-Y547A00.pdf

Look at pages 19 and 20.  Looks like the fronts use the OEM top mount.  The rears use the stock dust boot and some mounting pieces?  I'd have to see a stock RX-8 setup to see exactly what's reused.  Looks like the rears come with a new jounce bumper though.

[MrH]

You will when some guy shows up in an atom.

Then all of a sudden it's handicap this and adjustment that.

Meh, I don't care about winning the whole thing.  I just want to beat the snot out of my coworkers   If an atom wants to crush me out there, so be it.  I'll be cheering him on.

How much AX experience does he have compared to you?  From my experience, speed3s are very good AX cars out of the box.  I haven't seen a modded FRBRZ run, but I have not been blown away by what they can do when stock.

He has zero performance driving training.  I've at least done a few stints on the Ring and quite a bit of karting.  I destroy him by almost 2 full seconds a lap at our local karting place too.

[r0tor]

http://cart.bilsteinus.com/pdfs/E4-WM4-Y547A00.pdf

Look at pages 19 and 20.  Looks like the fronts use the OEM top mount.  The rears use the stock dust boot and some mounting pieces?  I'd have to see a stock RX-8 setup to see exactly what's reused.  Looks like the rears come with a new jounce bumper though.

Front


rear

[Eye of the Tiger]

You can't just a picture of suspension.

[r0tor]

I was thinking 8, 11, and 14 for the front

5, 6, 11, 17, 18, 19 for the rear???

[MrH]

If I had to guess based on those:

Front: 15, 14, 11, and 8?

Rear: 19, 18, 17, 11, 5, 9?

Just a guess.  The only wear items you'd might need to replace is the rear dust boot and the front top mounts (I'm guessing they have rubber bushing inserts).  A lot of this other stuff should be fine still.  It should be pretty obvious in person when you get it taken apart how it should go back together.

[r0tor]

I was thinking about spending a few bucks and just getting new parts so I could get the whole assembly together ahead of time...

[MrH]

I was thinking about spending a few bucks and just getting new parts so I could get the whole assembly together ahead of time...

Meh. It takes all of 5 minutes to assemble. You have a second car too, so it wouldn't kill you to leave it on jack stands for a day or two if need be.

When I installed mine, the only part of the assembly that took a little extra time was disassembling the adjustment knobs in the rear to get the top mount on. Also, I had to open up the hole in the top mount slightly because it was too small for the piston rod to go through.

[r0tor]

Bleh, I hate using spring compressors... was just going to leave the oems assembled