2o6 Flip Car thread!

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I've had awesome luck selling on CL - only met that one flaky whiny hippy bitch, and he was more annoying than anything - no cars but tires, wheels, lawn equipment, exhaust, iPhones, mountain bikes.

I've never sold on CL for that reason! I hear more horror stories about CL than Ebay.

[Cookie Monster]

I've never sold on CL for that reason! I hear more horror stories about CL than Ebay.

Man, fuck eBay. eBay takes half your money and Paypal takes the rest, plus Paypal fucks the seller over in the interest of "buyer protection".

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I've only sold a couple vehicles (My boys Harley and and his Suburban) and the fees weren't bad at all.

[2o6]

Sold - $2000


Profit - $700


Considering the salvage title and overall flakiness, i can't really be mad.


I'm returning the parts, though.

[Eye of the Tiger]

How many cars are you allowed to sell per year without being a licensed dealer? I think it is 7 herr.

[2o6]

How many cars are you allowed to sell per year without being a licensed dealer? I think it is 7 herr.

Six title transfers.

I'm only at three, the Vibe, the Civic and the CRV. And now the Jetta.


I probably won't do another until november. The landlord situation has me tapped on cash and the semester I have too much school work to really diagnose and find a car

[Eye of the Tiger]

I have spare time noe. Inneed to buy a car dolly so I can tow shit cars with Mighty Max. Then get a $400 carport and do some flipping flips. If I can make an $500 each X 6, I'd be pretty nappy.

[2o6]

I have spare time noe. Inneed to buy a car dolly so I can tow shit cars with Mighty Max. Then get a $400 carport and do some flipping flips. If I can make an $500 each X 6, I'd be pretty nappy.

If you stalk out CL, you can find a lot of deals. Lots of Civics with snapped timing belts, or Mazda 3/6 with failed oil pumps. I check CL almost twice an hour.

[Eye of the Tiger]

If you stalk out CL, you can find a lot of deals. Lots of Civics with snapped timing belts, or Mazda 3/6 with failed oil pumps. I check CL almost twice an hour.

How do you think I found Summit?

[2o6]

I have a dilemma


So Tax time will be upon us very soon.


I really am ready to get back into the game



I've noticed that mid-to-late cycle 1st Generation 4cyl, 5-speed Saturn VUE's are cheap, and the L61 4CYL is cheap, and I could buy and have a car on the road for a very low amount of money.

I'd really like to find a facelift model, but I haven't found one. I know tax time around here inflates the value of cars around %20-25 and with this being a small SUV it'll likely find a buyer.



So, I'm looking at these two

2005 - 180K, but sitting in a junkyard, looks like. $700

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/5343736445.html

2004 - 170K, one owner. Super clean exterior. It's in a quiet Columbus suburb, and the car has OBX stickers, so I'm assuming they kept up on work and really loved the car. $750.




Only blemish I saw in the dark










Here's the thing....




Retail puts these cars at around $3500 list, and I have yet to see a CL ad (private party) under $2800.



Should I go for one of these? Wait for a facelift model? Find one with lower miles? Ignore these totally?

[12,000 RPM]

I am just not seeing the market for these things like at all. If they were auto, OK, but stickshift is the kiss of death for 99% of buyers

Sucks as they sound interesting. $750 for ~10-12 year old running wheels is decent.

[2o6]

I am just not seeing the market for these things like at all. If they were auto, OK, but stickshift is the kiss of death for 99% of buyers

Sucks as they sound interesting. $750 for ~10-12 year old running wheels is decent.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/5370905504.html

http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/5349781996.html


http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/5348283378.html



This one doesn't run.


It would be $700 purchase + $400 for an engine + $500 install.

It'd be on the road for $1600. A running car IMO is still worth 2K. A nice running car with no issues, would be worth $2500.

[Madman]

I am just not seeing the market for these things like at all. If they were auto, OK, but stickshift is the kiss of death for 99% of buyers

I agree.

Stickshift + orphan brand + intergalactic mileage = deal breaker for the vast majority of shoppers.

I hope you'll enjoy driving it because something tells me you're going to be stuck with it for a VERY long time!

[2o6]

If you guys can find a running example for $1500, then show me.

[ifcar]

Just because they're hard to find doesn't necessarily mean that there's much demand for it when it is found, though. I'd also be wary of the marketability of a non-reputable crossover with a stickshift.

[2o6]

Just because they're hard to find doesn't necessarily mean that there's much demand for it when it is found, though. I'd also be wary of the marketability of a non-reputable crossover with a stickshift.

I think I'm going to pass on the 2004-2005 MY cars but if I see a 2006-2007 facelift car, I'll jump on it.


I think the age could negate the transmission and desirability of these cars. The L61's (2.2L Ecotec) is so cheap, that makes it not as bad of a profit margin as other cars. This engine is cheaper than the Transmisskon from the Honda CR-V, and $300 cheaper than the vibe and Civic engines.

[MrH]

Where do you get your engine pricing on these things?

[2o6]

Where do you get your engine pricing on these things?

Junkyard/salvage yard.


There's a site called "car-part.com" that prices pieces out, since junkyards are usually good about keeping things cost competitive between them.


Most junkyards are insurance salvage auction cars, (the one I go to) which Means they've been wrecked. It also means that the likelihood they're in running shape (all of the engines are tested working unless noted otherwise). These yards don't accept ol shitboxes off the street.


I also call to confirm.

[12,000 RPM]

I think I'm going to pass on the 2004-2005 MY cars but if I see a 2006-2007 facelift car, I'll jump on it.


I think the age could negate the transmission and desirability of these cars. The L61's (2.2L Ecotec) is so cheap, that makes it not as bad of a profit margin as other cars. This engine is cheaper than the Transmisskon from the Honda CR-V, and $300 cheaper than the vibe and Civic engines.

Only jump if its auto

U will have to pay someone to take a stickshift Vue off your hands

[2o6]

Only jump if its auto

U will have to pay someone to take a stickshift Vue off your hands

Autos are less reliable on these cars.


A standard shift is still worth something to someone who has no wheels.

[2o6]

I think I found another


2006 Saturn VUE 4 cyl 5MT - this one only has 103k.

This one "runs" but it's got valve tapping/collision, and an oil leak. Plus a cracked windshield and bad master cylinder?


He also wants $2250 which is insane for a car that needs a motor












This has more value, but the purchase price is too high. However, it also has been listed for awhile so maybe I can work him down.

[CaminoRacer]

Master cylinders are a PITA. So much bleeding...

[2o6]

Master cylinders are a PITA. So much bleeding...

He says it's leaking...


It's not ideal. If I can get it for $1000-1250, I'll hit. But I know $2250 to $1000 is a big fall from grace.



But it sounds like a stubborn old man who thinks his car is worth a lot more than it is. A Dealer job for either an engine or timing chain would be like 3k at least.

[12,000 RPM]

Why are there so many 5 speed Saturn Vues in Cleveland????????? I feel like there are more there than the whole rest of the country lmao.

[2o6]

Why are there so many 5 speed Saturn Vues in Cleveland????????? I feel like there are more there than the whole rest of the country lmao.

Three isn't that big of a deal, and a great deal of Saturns I see are manuals, no matter what they are.



The 5 speed wasn't that slow of a seller, it moved a few units, and came in both base and mid level VUEs.

[2o6]

lol guy says he doesn't want to come down by much, and he says the "valve tapping goes away when warm"


Lol fuck that guy.

[MX793]

lol guy says he doesn't want to come down by much, and he says the "valve tapping goes away when warm"


Lol fuck that guy.

Valve tap doesn't necessarily mean it's a timing issue.  Generally, if you're tapping a valve into a piston, the motor runs like absolute shit (and won't run very long).  My guess is it's a bad lifter or valve clearance has otherwise gone out of spec.

[Payman]

Worn lash adjusters. Common issue with high mileage EcoTechs. $20 each, there's 16 of them (only a few may be worn, but better to replace them all at once), reasonably easy job to do yourself. I Discovered the "valve tapping" issue on my son's G5 Pursuit, and a quick youtube video confirmed the problem and showed the fix. Exactly the same... the tapping goes away when the engine warms up.

[Payman]

I agree with the guys... I don't see any flip value with and old manual Vue.

[giant_mtb]

I drove a Vue once. I wasn't, uh, impressed.