C7 Corvette

Started by Cookie Monster, December 29, 2012, 11:09:40 PM

GoCougs

Quote from: SVT666 on January 12, 2013, 12:31:58 AM
With the amount of power the Vette makes, and the fact that very very few people ever take their cars to the track, 7 gears is overkill.

Um, your car has has 7 gears. LOTS of cars have 7 or more gears.

More gears = quicker + more efficient - both are very important attributes (more so the former) for this class and an automaker in general.

SVT666

Quote from: GoCougs on January 12, 2013, 08:20:33 AM
Um, your car has has 7 gears. LOTS of cars have 7 or more gears.

More gears = quicker + more efficient - both are very important attributes (more so the former) for this class and an automaker in general.
My car doesn't have a stick and clutch pedal and that's my complaint.  A 6 speed requires a lot of shifting so a 7 speed will require more.  I doubt a 7 speed manual will make the Vette any faster since there will be time wasted changing gears.  It's not a DSG,  so shifting gears takes time.

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: Raza  on January 12, 2013, 06:54:42 AM
Hell, until the C6, the Corvette was sold with a 4 speed auto. 
The 2005 C6 had the 4 speed also.
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Raza

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on January 12, 2013, 09:40:43 AM
The 2005 C6 had the 4 speed also.

Hmm.  What year did it get the 6 speed tiptronic?
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Lebowski

Quote from: Raza  on January 12, 2013, 10:20:22 AM

Hmm.  What year did it get the 6 speed tiptronic?


'06.

That would suck to have bought an '05 auto.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: Lebowski on January 12, 2013, 11:59:55 AM
'06.

That would suck to have bought an '05 auto.

I feel like it would suck to buy an auto 'Vette ever.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

CALL_911

Don't they sell more auto Corvettes than manual Corvettes?


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Raza

Quote from: CALL_911 on January 12, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
Don't they sell more auto Corvettes than manual Corvettes?

I imagine a lot more.
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You'd think the fogies would appreciate the clutch, seeing as it'd take them back to their childhood and whatnot.


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MX793

Quote from: Raza  on January 12, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
I imagine a lot more.

I think it's only a slight majority.  Something like 53%.
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Lebowski

I think it's a pretty solid majority that's auto.

I remember the first one I test drove was an '05 4 speed auto, they didnt have a manual on the lot at the time. I went back and drive a manual later, though.

giant_mtb

Quote from: Raza  on January 12, 2013, 07:28:04 AM
5 speeds are awkward.  They're missing a gear.  :lol:

Well shit, they just need to make it an 8-speed, then. :lol:


Lebowski

Damn, that looks pretty good.

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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: thecarnut on January 12, 2013, 12:01:38 PM
I feel like it would suck to buy an auto 'Vette ever.
Mine was a 6sp auto and it wasn't so bad. But the next one I buy (C6 GS or C7) will be a manual.
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SVT666

I thought the same Rock. 

2o6

...especially since the Corvette 6MT so easy to drive. If I had one, I would drive it every day and not bat an eye. It's just that livable.

GoCougs

Quote from: SVT666 on January 12, 2013, 08:31:38 AM
My car doesn't have a stick and clutch pedal and that's my complaint.  A 6 speed requires a lot of shifting so a 7 speed will require more.  I doubt a 7 speed manual will make the Vette any faster since there will be time wasted changing gears.  It's not a DSG,  so shifting gears takes time.

Then if not for performance and efficiency why did GM go with a 7 sp M/T (and 6 sp vs. 5 sp before that and 5 sp. vs. 4 sp. before that and 4 sp. vs. 3 sp. before that and 3 sp. vs. 2 sp. before that?)?

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Quote from: GoCougs on January 12, 2013, 07:25:14 PM
Then if not for performance and efficiency why did GM go with a 7 sp M/T (and 6 sp vs. 5 sp before that and 5 sp. vs. 4 sp. before that and 4 sp. vs. 3 sp. before that and 3 sp. vs. 2 sp. before that?)?
The only place you might notice it is on a racetrack.  Otherwise, I will go out on a limb here and say, it won't make a lick of difference in a car this powerful.  I think there's a point where the number of gears is perfect and any less or more is too many or too few.  6 is that magic number in my book.  I couldn't imagine driving a 5 speed again, but I couldn't imagine having to shift so much with a 7 speed for a tenth of a second.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: SVT666 on January 12, 2013, 09:57:39 PM
The only place you might notice it is on a racetrack.  Otherwise, I will go out on a limb here and say, it won't make a lick of difference in a car this powerful.  I think there's a point where the number of gears is perfect and any less or more is too many or too few.  6 is that magic number in my book.  I couldn't imagine driving a 5 speed again, but I couldn't imagine having to shift so much with a 7 speed for a tenth of a second.

lol
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

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Cookie Monster

Quote from: SVT666 on January 12, 2013, 10:07:16 PM
What's so funny about that? 

I can just see you getting into a car with a 5-speed and yelling "NO THIS IS NOT ENOUGH GEARS", and then getting out.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

S204STi

I drive a 5-speed.  I'd like 6.  7 though... now that's going too far.

Actually, with adequate torque, I don't really need more than this.

Cookie Monster

I don't feel the need for a 6th gear in my car. :huh:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

280Z Turbo

7th gear is just a trick to get EPA numbers up. Pure and simple.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 12, 2013, 10:58:02 PM
7th gear is just a trick to get EPA numbers up. Pure and simple.

Also to say "look, we have 7 gears!"
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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GoCougs

So is torque better than horsepower you guys?