The G-spot

[12,000 RPM]

Weird that you guys hold the brake until you pull the handbrake. I find sometimes that that puts weird tension on the drivetrain. I put the car in park, let go of the foot brake, THEN do the handbrake. Otherwise sometimes you get a weird thing where when you release the handbrake the car sinks.

[Soup DeVille]

Use hand brake before releasing foot brake to prevent lurching and transmission wear.

Yes, the transmission wears out very quickly when nothing is moving.

[CJ]

The problem here is that you guys own automatics.

The problem here is that you're being a typical manual-loving douche.


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[Cookie Monster]

The problem here is that you're being a typical manual-loving douche.


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Cool story, breh.

[93JC]

Weird that you guys hold the brake until you pull the handbrake. I find sometimes that that puts weird tension on the drivetrain. I put the car in park, let go of the foot brake, THEN do the handbrake. Otherwise sometimes you get a weird thing where when you release the handbrake the car sinks.

O_o

If you apply the handbrake after you put the transmission in park you're leaving it resting against the pawl. That's probably the "weird thing" you're experiencing when you shift out of park afterward...


For what it's worth I keep my foot on the brake pedal, shift the transmission to neutral, pull the handbrake, let my foot off the pedal, then shift to park and turn the car off.

[93JC]

The problem here is that you guys own automatics.

Your mom and dad bought the car you drive. You don't own shit.

[J86]

You guys set the ebrake in an automatic?

Only time I ever do that is when I'm temporarily parked on a boat ramp.

[93JC]

You guys set the ebrake in an automatic?

Yep. Just habit.

[Morris Minor]

Maybe my garage floor developed a slope coincident with my purchase of a G37.

[SVT666]

They all do this.  You can see it in cars on TV and in movies.  They all move.  No surface is ever completely level.  On a completely level surface and in a car with exactly 50/50 weight distribution with the driver in it, you may not experience this.  You put your car in neutral, release the brake to make sure that you're level, and then put it in park, you may not experience this.  Go from drive or reverse to park in a car that doesn't automatically engage a handbrake, it does this.

Slight roll /= lurch 

You are confusing the two.  Never in my life have I had an automatic lurch after putting it in Park.  Roll?  Yes.  Lurch?  No.

[Raza]

Slight roll /= lurch 

You are confusing the two.  Never in my life have I had an automatic lurch after putting it in Park.  Roll?  Yes.  Lurch?  No.

Definition of LURCH

1
: a sudden roll of a ship to one side
2
: an abrupt jerking, swaying, or tipping movement <the car moved forward with a lurch>; also : stagger 2

The G37 is kind of a boat, but I think it's definition #2 we're looking at here.  Depending on how quickly he lets off the brake it could easily be described as a lurch.  Unless we're all of a sudden talking about cribbage, a game I've played many times yet still do not understand.

[12,000 RPM]

This is getting needlessly semantic

[giant_mtb]

Yeah. Pretty sure by lurch he means something that feels more along the lines of the lurch you get when you stall a stickshift...but probably fairly less severe. Not rolling. Lurching. There's no need for a dictionary if you know how to comprehend.

[Raza]

Yeah. Pretty sure by lurch he means something that feels more along the lines of the lurch you get when you stall a stickshift...but probably fairly less severe. Not rolling. Lurching. There's no need for a dictionary if you know how to comprehend.

And I'm saying all automatics do this, some more violently than others depending on a lot of external factors.  Jesus fucking Christ, what the fuck is up with everyone these days?  Are you all PMSing constantly now?

[SVT666]

And I'm saying all automatics do this, some more violently than others depending on a lot of external factors.  Jesus fucking Christ, what the fuck is up with everyone these days?  Are you all PMSing constantly now?

No. Automatics do not suddenly jerk forward when you put them in Park and let off the brake.  They gently roll a couple inches, but they don't lurch.  Oh, and fuck you Raza, I know what lurch fucking means. 

You seem to have found a way to be a dick to one of the only people you have never offended on this site.  Congratulations.

[giant_mtb]

And I'm saying all automatics do this, some more violently than others depending on a lot of external factors.  Jesus fucking Christ, what the fuck is up with everyone these days?  Are you all PMSing constantly now?

Dude. You're talkin' bizarre right now. I'm not even going to try arguing more with you.

[Raza]

No. Automatics do not suddenly jerk forward when you put them in Park and let off the brake.  They gently roll a couple inches, but they don't lurch.  Oh, and fuck you Raza, I know what lurch fucking means. 

You seem to have found a way to be a dick to one of the only people you have never offended on this site.  Congratulations.

Look, one person is using a word to describe an action (a person from a different country as well).  This how I understand it.  He's free to come in and describe it further, but from what I'm hearing, I don't see anything out of the norm for an automatic transmission.

[giant_mtb]

Then you've driven some fucked up, lurching cars.

[Raza]

Then you've driven some fucked up, lurching cars.

All of them? 

What I think we really need is for Morris to come in and fully describe what's happening.  Because there are people on each side, some saying this is normal and some saying it's not.  If he's being thrown violently forward, then I agree, it's not normal.  But if it is what I'm thinking it is, then it is normal. 

[Soup DeVille]

This is almost starting to be as stupid as a hp v. torque argument.

[Raza]

This is almost starting to be as stupid as a hp v. torque argument.

It all comes down to how people are interpreting a word differently, the very essence of typed miscommunication.

[Soup DeVille]

It all comes down to how people are interpreting a word differently, the very essence of typed miscommunication.

The thing is; there's nothing even remotely common that can happen to a transmission that's going to cause a hard lurch after the engine is shut off. It's going to roll a little, even on flat pavement because there's backlash in the drivetrain between the rear brakes and the parking pawl inside the transmission

[hotrodalex]

The thing is; there's nothing even remotely common that can happen to a transmission that's going to cause a hard lurch after the engine is shut off. It's going to roll a little, even on flat pavement because there's backlash in the drivetrain between the rear brakes and the parking pawl inside the transmission

No you're wrong it lurched forward violently!!!!!

[giant_mtb]

All of them? 

What I think we really need is for Morris to come in and fully describe what's happening.  Because there are people on each side, some saying this is normal and some saying it's not.  If he's being thrown violently forward, then I agree, it's not normal.  But if it is what I'm thinking it is, then it is normal. 

Right. I just think you're having a really hard time understanding that by "lurch" he means something more violent than is obviously normal. I don't get why that's do hard for you to accept today.

[Soup DeVille]

No you're wrong it lurched forward violently!!!!!

So explain to me where that energy is coming from then.

[Laconian]

I just reminded myself that VQ @ 7k RPM sounds great. It becomes illegal very quickly too.

[Raza]

I just reminded myself that VQ @ 7k RPM sounds great. It becomes illegal very quickly too.

My friend's old boss has a Mooooo.  I saw him in traffic today, but he was riding his BWUBWUBWBUBWAAAAAA.

[SVT666]

I just reminded myself that VQ @ 7k RPM sounds great. It becomes illegal very quickly too.

Yeah.  The G is most comfortable cruising at illegal speeds though and that pisses me off.  Governments need to lift limits on Freeways.  It is so buttoned down and handling is superb at like 90 mph.  It almost feels lazy at 60-65 mph.

[hotrodalex]

So explain to me where that energy is coming from then.

Electric motor on the output shaft.

[hotrodalex]

Yeah.  The G is most comfortable cruising at illegal speeds though and that pisses me off.  Governments need to lift limits on Freeways.  It is so buttoned down and handling is superb at like 90 mph.  It almost feels lazy at 60-65 mph.

Most new cars are. 55 is like standing still.