Ontario switches up etest procedures...

Started by VTEC_Inside, January 11, 2013, 12:41:26 PM

VTEC_Inside

I must be living in a bubble because new etest procedures went into effect Jan 1 here and I knew nothing about it...

No more roller test, OBD2 only. That and pics of the plate, drivers door jamb sticker and of the odometer.

Got the CSX test done today, seems like more of a pain in the ass than the old way, but...

A guy I work with failed the new test because his CEL is on for O2 heater circuit. He went to a shop still using the old equipment and passed the sniff test on the rollers, lol... Sigh...

Now I gotta get the RSX done... On the bright side the Accord is now exempt which is great since I haven't driven it in 2 years...
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

Raza

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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

VTEC_Inside

Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

Raza

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you can read this, you're too close


2006 BMW Z4 3.0i
http://accelerationtherapy.squarespace.com/   @accelerationdoc
Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

shp4man

They're changing the rules here this year, too. Dyno still used on cars older than 2000 model year. Newer only gets an inspection and a OBDII test.
The reality is that if a newer car has a problem, the light will come on and a code will set.

SVT666

BC dumped emissions testing last year altogether.

S204STi

Quote from: shp4man on January 11, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
They're changing the rules here this year, too. Dyno still used on cars older than 2000 model year. Newer only gets an inspection and a OBDII test.
The reality is that if a newer car has a problem, the light will come on and a code will set.

Unless you've reflashed the PCM to squelch those codes...

Good news for the tuning community.

FoMoJo

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on January 11, 2013, 12:41:26 PM
I must be living in a bubble because new etest procedures went into effect Jan 1 here and I knew nothing about it...

No more roller test, OBD2 only. That and pics of the plate, drivers door jamb sticker and of the odometer.

Got the CSX test done today, seems like more of a pain in the ass than the old way, but...

A guy I work with failed the new test because his CEL is on for O2 heater circuit. He went to a shop still using the old equipment and passed the sniff test on the rollers, lol... Sigh...

Now I gotta get the RSX done... On the bright side the Accord is now exempt which is great since I haven't driven it in 2 years...
Never heard a thing about it :huh:.  Just got mine done a couple of months ago.  My 'check engine light' has been on for, at least, the last 7 years.
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2o6

OH has only done OBDII for quite some time, now. Non OBD cars use the rollers.

Soup DeVille

I live in Michigan- I can renew my registration even if the car is currently on fire.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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VTEC_Inside

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 11, 2013, 07:09:18 PM
I live in Michigan- I can renew my registration even if the car is currently on fire.

:lol:

Got the RSX done on Wed... Done for the next 2yrs....
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

MX793

NY uses the OBDII port for emissions testing instead of a sniffer test.  It's a PITA because if your check engine light is on for any reason, it's an immediate fail.
Needs more Jiggawatts

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SVT666


MX793

Quote from: SVT666 on January 18, 2013, 12:49:10 PM
What if you have an aftermarket tune?

If the light is on or they read any recent codes in the history, it's an automatic fail regardless of why the light is on.  Someone my dad knows had an issue a couple of years ago with an older (early 2000s) Hyundai not passing inspection because apparently on that vehicle, they linked the CEL to turn on if there was a fault in the ABS system instead of having a dedicated "ABS" light in the dash.  They had a bad ABS sensor, which shouldn't cause an inspection failure, but because the CEL was on, the vehicle would not pass inspection.
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CJ

It's not just older Hyundais.  Look at almost any GM vehicle with the CEL on and it WILL have ABS codes.

shp4man

You may be surprised at the amount of information that gets stored in the PCM of these newer cars. The VIN, the last emission failure and many other systems, the data picture of when it happened, the year, model, and software version of the calibration, any tampering done, on and on and on. All it needs is a GPS chip and it could give you speeding tickets.  :mask:

VTEC_Inside

Quote from: shp4man on January 18, 2013, 04:24:10 PM
You may be surprised at the amount of information that gets stored in the PCM of these newer cars. The VIN, the last emission failure and many other systems, the data picture of when it happened, the year, model, and software version of the calibration, any tampering done, on and on and on. All it needs is a GPS chip and it could give you speeding tickets.  :mask:

That's what I started to think about after the CSX, wtf did my car just rat me out on?

I should have probably cleared the thing and driven the 50km to work all civil, hope the readiness codes got set, then took it in.
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

JWC

If these tests are like NC's, it will immediately fail if the CEL bulb is burned out.  Then you have to spend the money to replace the bulb, test the car, and if it fails, repair and retest.  Resetting/purging the codes will not pass the vehicle.  The software "sees" the system has just been reset and will fail it.  It has to be driven for a coupe of hundred miles after a PCM reset to insure the warning will not return.

Here, it is OBDII for 1996 and newer.  It is a general safety inspection for 1995 and previous.