New Mazda 3?

Started by 12,000 RPM, June 26, 2013, 09:00:53 AM

12,000 RPM

Its def got a little too much nose. It actually does look like a 6 with the trunk chopped off. It's sexy though.
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2o6

I'm starting to dislike it now, honestly. What is this going to look like in sedan form?

r0tor

It's got the face I expected, but the front to rear proportions are odd
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Quote from: Laconian on June 26, 2013, 06:13:01 PM
I think it looks hawt, but yeah, it overlaps with the 2 in the small hatchback department.

The Mazda2 is 18 inches long and ten feet tall.  I don't think this is going to overlap. 
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Quote from: 2o6 on June 26, 2013, 07:23:41 PM
I'm starting to dislike it now, honestly. What is this going to look like in sedan form?

The only way it will look good as a sedan is if they add some length (and rear overhang) to the car.  A little more rear overhang may actually help the proportions a little by visually balancing the front overhang.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: 2o6 on June 26, 2013, 07:23:41 PM
I'm starting to dislike it now, honestly. What is this going to look like in sedan form?

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2o6

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 26, 2013, 09:16:22 PM



That's going to look stumpy and unusable with a shorter wheelbase.




I feel like this is going to have the same tight interior problems as the current one, if not worse.

TBR

Agree with everyone else that the nose looks a big long. Still, it looks really good, better than anything else in the class imo. And the interior is fantastic. Hopefully it drives as well as the prev. two generations.

Vinsanity



I dunno, somehow these proportions don't bother me as much as on the Merc CLA

2o6

It doesn't look too bad there.




The A-class in general has crap proportions.

Cookie Monster

Side profile looks great. The nose doesn't look giant compared to the rest of the car like it does in the front 3/4 view.
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Quote from: 2o6 on June 26, 2013, 09:18:28 PM

That's going to look stumpy and unusable with a shorter wheelbase.




I feel like this is going to have the same tight interior problems as the current one, if not worse.

What do you mean "tight interior problem"?  The car is no tighter inside than any other compact I've been in (excluding "jumbo compacts" like the Jetta and Cruze, which technically qualify as midsizers).
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12,000 RPM

The nose does bother me a bit but there's nothing they can do about it. I think it's the best compact car nose in this "save the stupid pedestrians" era. I think a trunk will help balance out the nose, though if it's as stumpy as the current car's trunk I'm not sure it will be enough.

It's not perfect but it's a definite improvement and more attractive than anything in its class (including the Guiletta). I think Mazda has a hit.
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Raza

Quote from: MX793 on June 27, 2013, 04:21:14 AM
What do you mean "tight interior problem"?  The car is no tighter inside than any other compact I've been in (excluding "jumbo compacts" like the Jetta and Cruze, which technically qualify as midsizers).

Wow.  The Jetta V was really roomy, but well within the guidelines of a compact car.  However, the Jetta VI has a combined volume of 110 cubic feet, which is over threshold for a compact car--though the EPA still considers it a compact, which is odd.
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Catman

I'm guessing the sloping roof line in the back really cuts out some interior space.

Byteme

Quote from: Catman on June 27, 2013, 08:25:12 AM
I'm guessing the sloping roof line in the back really cuts out some interior space.

Yeah, but is it space that's normally used?

2o6

Quote from: MX793 on June 27, 2013, 04:21:14 AM
What do you mean "tight interior problem"?  The car is no tighter inside than any other compact I've been in (excluding "jumbo compacts" like the Jetta and Cruze, which technically qualify as midsizers).


Rear seat is a little small, compared to most of the class - Cruze, Jetta, Corolla, Sentra, Golf.....and nearly everything else.


Quote from: Catman on June 27, 2013, 08:25:12 AM
I'm guessing the sloping roof line in the back really cuts out some interior space.


The Corolla is ugly, but it will be huge inside. The new Sentra is very ugly, but those proportions allow for a really big interior. The way the wheelbase/greenhouse is positioned, it seems like the rear seat and overall cabin is smaller than typical compared to the car's length.

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Quote from: MiataJohn on June 27, 2013, 08:54:34 AM
Yeah, but is it space that's normally used?

You'll find out when the hatch won't close.

Onslaught

Not bad looking for a shit box class car. The interior is SO MUCH better looking then the one it's replacing.

As for Rotary engines. Yes, Mazda is still working on the 1.6 replacement called the 16X. And no, you don't need to replace or rebuild them every 2 years. You can get 4 years out of them before that!  :lol:


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Quote from: Onslaught on June 27, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
Not bad looking for a shit box class car. The interior is SO MUCH better looking then the one it's replacing.

As for Rotary engines. Yes, Mazda is still working on the 1.6 replacement called the 16X. And no, you don't need to replace or rebuild them every 2 years. You can get 4 years out of them before that!  :lol:

Shit box class? What is this 1985?

The compact class has been getting better and better, mang.

Shitbox class is now 2 steps below in the form of city cars.

Onslaught

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 27, 2013, 09:25:11 PM
Shit box class? What is this 1985?

The compact class has been getting better and better, mang.

Shitbox class is now 2 steps below in the form of city cars.
Shit box to me. I don't give two rat turds about Mazda3's, Honda Civics or Ford Focus kind of cars. But I hope they sell a shit ton so I can get the kind of cars I do give a few rat turds about.

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Quote from: Laconian on June 27, 2013, 10:58:16 PM
HUD??

That I find poorly implemented. Others are able to do that without a physical screen.

Raza

What would life be like if I couldn't check-in or tweet "Stuck in traffic LOL" without taking my phone out of my pocket?
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SJ_GTI

Nice looking car IMHO.

MX793

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Quote from: Galaxy on June 28, 2013, 02:36:41 AM
That I find poorly implemented. Others are able to do that without a physical screen.


I don't know, a separate screen could have some benefits.  If you live in cool, humid climates, the insides of the windshield can be very prone to condensation.  Mine has, at times, been so bad that it actually saturated my registration sticker (large droplets of water on the inside of the glass that had to be mopped up with a paper towel, too much water to simply defog with the defroster).  A separate screen would mean no risk of condensation screwing up the readout.  May also permit the use of anti-glare or other treatments that can't easily be applied to a windshield, or the use of materials with better reflective/refractive properties than windshield glass.
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Laconian

On one hand it seems like it would control optical distortion.

On the other hand, it's another thing to get dusty and annoying.
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SVT666

The last thing you should be able to access while driving is Facebook and Twitter.

SVT666

Calling it an HUD is false advertising since you still have to take your eyes off the road to look at it.