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[CJ]

Clarkson made Ford buy his GT back after about a month of ownership because it was such a POS...

Because of the aftermarket alarm, I believe.

[GoCougs]

Because of the aftermarket alarm, I believe.

Car companies just don't buy back cars because someone asks let alone because of a trippy aftermarket alarm, so there is likely a whole pile of something that when on behind the scenes, probably not a lot to do with the alarm.

[GoCougs]

His main point was that it was a cheap knockoff of an icon... and therefore terrible.  He absolutely has a point.

Not really. The Ford GT wasn't "cheap." Sure it was retro but it was very well executed (and much better looking than the original).

[SVT666]

His main point was that it was a cheap knockoff of an icon... and therefore terrible.  He absolutely has a point.

That's the point he was trying to make but he's full of shit.  The GT was a brilliant car that had the styling of the original.  I guess the 2005 Mustang is a cheap knockoff of an icon too?

[SVT666]

Clarkson made Ford buy his GT back after about a month of ownership because it was such a POS...

Because of the aftermarket alarm, I believe.

Car companies just don't buy back cars because someone asks let alone because of a trippy aftermarket alarm, so there is likely a whole pile of something that when on behind the scenes, probably not a lot to do with the alarm.

Actually it had everything to do with the alarm but it was a stock alarm and not afternarket.  The alarm kept going off at random times and then he would get a phone call in the middle of the night and sometimes while he was driving from Ford telling him his car had been stolen.  The car spent a lot of time in the shop for the issue and Ford couldn't rectify the situation.  Clarkson demanded they buy the car back and they did.  Likely to avoid worse press than Clarkson was already giving them.  Despite all that, Clarkson still says it's one of the best cars he has ever driven and owned.

[Raza]

Clarkson made Ford buy his GT back after about a month of ownership because it was such a POS...

Then he bought it back again.

[r0tor]

That's the point he was trying to make but he's full of shit.  The GT was a brilliant car that had the styling of the original.  I guess the 2005 Mustang is a cheap knockoff of an icon too?

Yup

[SVT666]

That's bullshit.

[GoCougs]

Not sure what's up with that - the retro pony cars are great cars and successful in the marketplace.

[12,000 RPM]

Not sure what's up with that - the retro pony cars are great cars and successful in the marketplace.

GT is in a very different market... people spending 150K on a car want the image of wealth, not fake nostalgia

[Tave]

Limited edition halo car that runs 200 mph? I think it has the cache to sport the label "supercar."

[Raza]

Limited edition halo car that runs 200 mph? I think it has the cache to sport the label "supercar."

212.  Apparently electronically limited, according to Wikipedia.

[r0tor]

Not sure what's up with that - the retro pony cars are great cars and successful in the marketplace.

The names mustang and camaro carry enough cache that the designers could make it a turd on wheels and people would still preorder them.

Retro copies are just designers being lazy.

[SVT666]

[hotrodalex]

I see the retro pony car phase as a nice reboot for the cars, since they were getting off track a little bit.

[SVT666]

GT is in a very different market... people spending 150K on a car want the image of wealth, not fake nostalgia

You don't think the Ford GT projects an image of wealth?  Are you fucking high?

[GoCougs]

GT is in a very different market... people spending 150K on a car want the image of wealth, not fake nostalgia

Didn't seem like Ford had a problem selling them and suffice it to say they're doing even better used (quick Googling shows an average asking price of ~$225k).

[GoCougs]

The names mustang and camaro carry enough cache that the designers could make it a turd on wheels and people would still preorder them.

Retro copies are just designers being lazy.

Betcha it was harder politically and technically to get the current Camaro to market than it was a non-retro version.

[12,000 RPM]

You don't think the Ford GT projects an image of wealth?  Are you fucking high?

Its like a fancy Corvette

[SVT666]

Its like a fancy Corvette

You're either trolling or you're an idiot.

[12,000 RPM]

You're either trolling or you're an idiot.

Either way, 

[r0tor]

Betcha it was harder politically and technically to get the current Camaro to market than it was a non-retro version.

Yes, with ford already selling a bunch of retro mustangs - I am sure that it was a tougher decision to sell a retro camaro then it would have been a clean slate one.