evo Analogue Supercar test- F1, F40, F50, Noble, Carrera GT, Murci, Zonda...

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McLaren F1 and Ferrari F40 vs analogue rivals | evo TV

Carerra GT sound 

[S204STi]

Very nice...

[r0tor]

I heart the carerra GT... oh my my

[S204STi]

Those cars must be hard to drive, with such a massive, throbbing erection.

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Those cars must be hard to drive, with such a massive, throbbing erection.

That is actually how they what they were designed for

[565]

The F50 has always been my favorite Ferrari, and I know there isn't alot of love for it.  Good to see it finally get the recognition it deserves.  It's probably the closest thing Ferrari ever made, and ever will make to a road going F1 car.

There are so many cars that claim inspiration from Formula 1, or built to celebrate F1 (Mclaren F1, NSX, etc etc) but short of a Caparo T1, the F50 is one of the few road cars that can really trace it's fundamental design and hardware back to F1.

[SVT666]

There is one glaring oversight: Ford GT

[GoCougs]

There is one glaring oversight: Ford GT

Mmm. Not so sure. The other cars in the test, in present day $$$$, were 3-5x as expensive. It would have been a better fit than the Lambo for sure though - probably not easy to get one in the UK...

[GoCougs]

And yes, the Carrera GT FTW - best sound car ever produced (yes, even more so than the LF-A, but only just).

[SVT666]

Mmm. Not so sure. The other cars in the test, in present day $$$$, were 3-5x as expensive. It would have been a better fit than the Lambo for sure though - probably not easy to get one in the UK...

It doesn't matter if it was nowhere near as pricey.  By all accounts it's one of the all time great driver's cars that is just as fast and special as any of the cars in the test.

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It doesn't matter if it was nowhere near as pricey.  By all accounts it's one of the all time great driver's cars that is just as fast and special as any of the cars in the test.

It has a pickup truck engine. The original GT40 would have been a better choice

[SVT666]

It has a pickup truck engine. The original GT40 would have been a better choice

A pickup truck engine?  It shared a block and that's it.  That engine propelled the car to 217 mph.  It is one of the all time great driver's cars in the supercar category.  Period.

[GoCougs]

It has a pickup truck engine. The original GT40 would have been a better choice

GT40 was never street legal though. I'm sure snobbishness had something to with it.

[Galaxy]

Thanks for posting that.

[Galaxy]

The F50 has always been my favorite Ferrari, and I know there isn't alot of love for it.  Good to see it finally get the recognition it deserves.  It's probably the closest thing Ferrari ever made, and ever will make to a road going F1 car.

There are so many cars that claim inspiration from Formula 1, or built to celebrate F1 (Mclaren F1, NSX, etc etc) but short of a Caparo T1, the F50 is one of the few road cars that can really trace it's fundamental design and hardware back to F1.

Enzo?

[cawimmer430]

There is one glaring oversight: Ford GT

Don't forget the Mazda Miata, Subaru BRZ and Infiniti G. 

[565]

Enzo?

The Enzo is another one of those F1 inspired wannabees that can't really trace much hardware directly back to F1.  It's engine was based off a Quattroporte.

The F50 on the other hand, had an engine that could directly trace its origins to F1, and it was bolted directly to the carbon fiber tub, and the transmission was directly bolted to the engine, and the suspension was bolted to the transmission, and they are all load bearing, just like an F1 car.

[Galaxy]

The Enzo is another one of those F1 inspired wannabees that can't really trace much hardware directly back to F1.  It's engine was based off a Quattroporte.

The F50 on the other hand, had an engine that could directly trace its origins to F1, and it was bolted directly to the carbon fiber tub, and the transmission was directly bolted to the engine, and the suspension was bolted to the transmission, and they are all load bearing, just like an F1 car.

To my knowledge there is no shared development between the Quattrporte's engines and the Enzos. The Quattroporte uses a 90° V8, and the Enzo a 65° V12. The Enzo's engine was used, however, in the Maserati MC12.

[SVT666]

To my knowledge there is no shared development between the Quattrporte's engines and the Enzos. The Quattroporte uses a 90° V8, and the Enzo a 65° V12. The Enzo's engine was used, however, in the Maserati MC12.

And that's because the MC12 was a modified Enzo.

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Enzo's engine was based on the V12 going all the way back to the 456GT IIRC

F50's only Achilles' heel was that it was butt ugly and had a kit car exterior. For whatever its worth its my favorite Ferrari in Forza 4 (in LM trim though)

The LM version revs to like 12-13K... glorious

[r0tor]

And yes, the Carrera GT FTW - best sound car ever produced (yes, even more so than the LF-A, but only just).

Both of those cars on the track together would be glorious to listen too

[hotrodalex]

Zonda would be my pick, but I definitely like the Carerra GT more now.

[S204STi]

Hard to say which one I'd go for, but I'm leaning towards the Noble.

[SVT32V]

It has a pickup truck engine. The original GT40 would have been a better choice

A pickup truck engine?  It shared a block and that's it.  That engine propelled the car to 217 mph.  It is one of the all time great driver's cars in the supercar category.  Period.

The GT engine only shared bore and stroke with other 5.4. The block was aluminum and a new design, as were the 4V heads, crank etc.

No pickup ever had this Al block, 4V heads etc.

The VQ in your cars is far more closely related to the truck engine found in the frontier/pathfinder/Xterra/.

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I was just fucking around. Seriously though, GT seems a bit outclassed. Though I guess if the Noble is there it should be there too.

[SVT32V]

I was just fucking around. Seriously though, GT seems a bit outclassed. Though I guess if the Noble is there it should be there too.

BTW, I didn't get a chance before, congrats on the car, great pick. You only get once around the ride called life and the next car you get will probably be a family car. It is good to get a fun car while you are young enough to enjoy it.

Although you did have me worried you were going to get another fwd honda or minima, good for you.

[Cookie Monster]

BTW, I didn't get a chance before, congrats on the car, great pick. You only get once around the ride called life and the next car you get will probably be a family car. It is good to get a fun car while you are young enough to enjoy it.

Although you did have me worried you were going to get another fwd honda or minima, good for you.

Minima.

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[565]

To my knowledge there is no shared development between the Quattrporte's engines and the Enzos. The Quattroporte uses a 90° V8, and the Enzo a 65° V12. The Enzo's engine was used, however, in the Maserati MC12.

Enzo's engine was based on the V12 going all the way back to the 456GT IIRC

No the Enzo's V12 was the first Ferrari V12 to be not at all related to the V12's designed by Dino used in Ferrari's past.  It represented a totally new road car focused architecture that first debuted on the Quattroporte V8 and subsequently was used in all current Ferrari road engines.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/enzo-ferrari-frederic-p-miller/1020513795

"The Enzo's V12 engine is the first of a new generation for Ferrari. It is based on the architecture of the V8 found in sister-company Maserati's Quattroporte, using the same basic architecture and 104 mm (4.1 in) bore spacing. This design will replace the former architectures seen in V12 and V8 engines used in most other contemporary Ferraris."

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BTW, I didn't get a chance before, congrats on the car, great pick. You only get once around the ride called life and the next car you get will probably be a family car. It is good to get a fun car while you are young enough to enjoy it.

Although you did have me worried you were going to get another fwd honda or minima, good for you.

Thanks

I don't see a driveway without a sports car in my future. I would rather have a sports car and a rust bucket commuter than some 1 car compromise. Ideally I would move up to a Z4M but if I can't do that I will keep the Z + rebuild the engine once the miles get high enough and get a cheap beater commuter

Tooling around though the engine + trans really feels like an old Maxima... the lineage is strong. Its just in a chassis that isn't complete crap An old old Maxima would complement this nicely though.