2015 Mazda 2

[Byteme]

I think it looks much better than the poor attempts at integrating it into the dashboard.

It also gives the flexibility to design the low, small dashboard, because the traditional instrument panel only needs the HVAC controls.

It's a matter of differing tastes. I guess we agree to disagree.

I like dedicated knobs and switches logically laid out for the essentials; lights, HVAC, wipers, radio and maybe navigation.  Group all the other stuff: top up and down, ASC, windows, mirrors and the like somewhere in the lower dash or forward part of the console in front of the manual gear lever.   Turn signals, high beam on one stalk, wipers on the other.   Cruise and radio controls on the steering wheel.   What I don't want it to have to page through menus on a screen to get what I want. 

[FoMoJo]

It's a matter of differing tastes. I guess we agree to disagree.

I like dedicated knobs and switches logically laid out for the essentials; lights, HVAC, wipers, radio and maybe navigation.  Group all the other stuff: top up and down, ASC, windows, mirrors and the like somewhere in the lower dash or forward part of the console in front of the manual gear lever.   Turn signals, high beam on one stalk, wipers on the other.   Cruise and radio controls on the steering wheel.   What I don't want it to have to page through menus on a screen to get what I want. 

Absolutely.  One function, one switch/button/knob.

[Payman]

It's a matter of differing tastes. I guess we agree to disagree.

I like dedicated knobs and switches logically laid out for the essentials; lights, HVAC, wipers, radio and maybe navigation.  Group all the other stuff: top up and down, ASC, windows, mirrors and the like somewhere in the lower dash or forward part of the console in front of the manual gear lever.   Turn signals, high beam on one stalk, wipers on the other.   Cruise and radio controls on the steering wheel.   What I don't want it to have to page through menus on a screen to get what I want. 

Oh yeah, on that last point we agree.

[12,000 RPM]

I'm not a fan of that pop up screen, not in this or any other car that has one like that.  IMO, it looks cheap, like an afterthought.

Lambo and Audi have started replacing gauge clusters with screens. That seems to make the most sense to me. A double DIN headunit has about 25-27" of screen area. That translates to like 8-9x3" which is about the size of a gauge cluster. Companies should just do that. I'm guessing that will be the next wave. This tacked on stuff looks terrible.

OEMs really need to get on the phone mirroring wave as well.

[MX793]

Lambo and Audi have started replacing gauge clusters with screens. That seems to make the most sense to me. A double DIN headunit has about 25-27" of screen area. That translates to like 8-9x3" which is about the size of a gauge cluster. Companies should just do that. I'm guessing that will be the next wave. This tacked on stuff looks terrible.

OEMs really need to get on the phone mirroring wave as well.

I have mixed feelings about the change to these displays.  The digital/LED displays of the 80s, and the myriad issues they had as the cars aged, come to mind.

[Madman]

I have mixed feelings about the change to these displays.  The digital/LED displays of the 80s, and the myriad issues they had as the cars aged, come to mind.

Yeah, I can see that becoming an issue in the not-too-distant future,

"Oh, sorry.  The manufacturer doesn't make that type of display screen for your car anymore.  You're screwed."

Explain to me what's wrong with analogue gauges?    KISS- Keep It Simple, Stupid!

[ifcar]

Yeah, I can see that becoming an issue in the not-too-distant future,

"Oh, sorry.  The manufacturer doesn't make that type of display screen for your car anymore.  You're screwed."

Explain to me what's wrong with analogue gauges?    KISS- Keep It Simple, Stupid!

Uh, why would that not be a concern with any other part of a car?

[12,000 RPM]

I have mixed feelings about the change to these displays.  The digital/LED displays of the 80s, and the myriad issues they had as the cars aged, come to mind.

No different than the navi screens that have been in cars for ~15 yrs. And with screen mirroring the stuff in cars wouldn't be instantly obsolete, as it is now.

[MrH]

Lambo and Audi have started replacing gauge clusters with screens. That seems to make the most sense to me. A double DIN headunit has about 25-27" of screen area. That translates to like 8-9x3" which is about the size of a gauge cluster. Companies should just do that. I'm guessing that will be the next wave. This tacked on stuff looks terrible.

OEMs really need to get on the phone mirroring wave as well.

Haven't you seen android auto and apples car play?

[12,000 RPM]

Haven't you seen android auto and apples car play?

No........

Google skim doesnt show that its anything OEM though.

OEMs should just make Android/iOS apps to enable a custom connection between their cars and devices. Let the device be the brains but have the GPS and all that be in the car. Then they will be able to use Android/iOS without having to be at the mercy of Apple/Google/.

[MrH]

No........

Google skim doesnt show that its anything OEM though.

OEMs should just make Android/iOS apps to enable a custom connection between their cars and devices. Let the device be the brains but have the GPS and all that be in the car. Then they will be able to use Android/iOS without having to be at the mercy of Apple/Google/.

That's basically what they're doing. GPS antenna is using the phones though (I think, not positive).

Should be coming out this fall in cars. I agree it's much better than the antiquated shit we have now. Watching my brz try and communicate with my nexus 5 is so bad it's comical. It tells me a text comes it, tries to read it, but nothing shows up. Then it just repeats over and over about having a new text

[Northlands]

It's a matter of differing tastes. I guess we agree to disagree.

I like dedicated knobs and switches logically laid out for the essentials; lights, HVAC, wipers, radio and maybe navigation.  Group all the other stuff: top up and down, ASC, windows, mirrors and the like somewhere in the lower dash or forward part of the console in front of the manual gear lever.   Turn signals, high beam on one stalk, wipers on the other.   Cruise and radio controls on the steering wheel.   What I don't want it to have to page through menus on a screen to get what I want. 

I agree. I also don't want something knocking out my screen, taking the rest of the functions with it. Lose that, and lose my HVAC, radio, and whatever else the manufacturer decides to tie in with it's functions. Kind of scary.

[12,000 RPM]

Whens the last time u knocked out a screen in your car.................

I agree though, knobs and switches for basic stuff is key. There is no reason to have to go through a menu/screen to mess with HVAC or basic radio stuff. Manufacturers are getting a little too screen happy.

But for non essentials and straight outputs (speed, RPMs, etc) I think a screen in the dash is the move.

[hotrodalex]

Like the screen in our Mazda6 that has been on the fritz since 2010?

[thewizard16]

It's a matter of differing tastes. I guess we agree to disagree.

I like dedicated knobs and switches logically laid out for the essentials; lights, HVAC, wipers, radio and maybe navigation.  Group all the other stuff: top up and down, ASC, windows, mirrors and the like somewhere in the lower dash or forward part of the console in front of the manual gear lever.   Turn signals, high beam on one stalk, wipers on the other.   Cruise and radio controls on the steering wheel.   What I don't want it to have to page through menus on a screen to get what I want. 

Yeah, I'm in your camp on that. I prefer the screen somehow in the dash rather than tacked on top, but that seems to be the direction a lot of companies have gone.

[Madman]

Uh, why would that not be a concern with any other part of a car?

If the aftermarket steps in, then there won't be much concern.  But will they?

[12,000 RPM]

I feel like the aftermarket is doomed....

[68_427]

[2o6]

Lies

[Raza]

That's my Facebook account dude.  Mazdausa is my middle name.

[Madman]

According to various sources, production of the 2016 model year (there will be no 2015 MY 2) US-spec Mazda 2 (with 1.5 Skyactive engine) has already begun at Mazda's Salamanca, Mexico facility.

Expect a Spring 2015 launch.

[12,000 RPM]

Needs 2.0L. Pref with Miata tune. Mazdaspeed2

[2o6]

.....not being sold in the USA.


http://www.autonews.com/article/20150524/OEM04/305259970/redesigned-mazda2-hatchback-sits-out-u-s


However, it'll still be sold in Puerto Rico. And possibly Canada. And as the fugly Scion iA.




WTF.

[MX793]

The decision to sell a rebadged 2 sedan as the iA now makes more sense.  It will be Mazda's way of entering the subcompact market in the US.  Why they don't feel they can sell the Mazda2 under their own brand name, I don't know.

[2o6]

The decision to sell a rebadged 2 sedan as the iA now makes more sense.  It will be Mazda's way of entering the subcompact market in the US.  Why they don't feel they can sell the Mazda2 under their own brand name, I don't know.

Because the old Mazda 2 had limited options, and no marketing.


This car could succeed, but they don't seem to want to put any energy into it.

[ifcar]

I think the article makes it clear why the U.S. wasn't Mazda's focus -- the U.S. can't win a competition with other markets to deserve a limited supply. And although it wasn't mentioned by name, I'm sure Mazda was thinking that the 2 might have been taking some sales from the more profitable CX-3. It's a pity, though, that if capacity is constrained 1) they wouldn't want to increase capacity and 2) they're wasting their capacity giving them to Toyota, and the less desirable version at that.

At least the fact that it's already U.S.-certified means that the decision can be reversed fairly quickly.

[MX793]

Because the old Mazda 2 had limited options, and no marketing.


This car could succeed, but they don't seem to want to put any energy into it.

I suspect Scion has a wider dealer network.  Scion's reputation for offering inexpensive, no-hassle cars (and association with Toyota) will likely also attract buyers that wouldn't otherwise stop at a Mazda dealership.

[ifcar]

I suspect Scion has a wider dealer network.  Scion's reputation for offering inexpensive, no-hassle cars (and association with Toyota) will likely also attract buyers that wouldn't otherwise stop at a Mazda dealership.

Scion's most successful products were the first-generation xB, which non-owners seemed to think of as equivalent to the Element, and the first-generation tC, which was neither especially inexpensive nor fuel efficient -- just sporty-looking with lots of features. Its ordinary cars -- xA and xD -- were never strong sellers, and the Mazda2 sedan is even more ordinary-looking than those. And even the xB and tC were always relatively low-volume in the broader market.

In short, I don't think Scion has a reputation for anything at all to the average person.

[AutobahnSHO]

kiddie cars= scion

[Madman]

.....not being sold in the USA.


http://www.autonews.com/article/20150524/OEM04/305259970/redesigned-mazda2-hatchback-sits-out-u-s


However, it'll still be sold in Puerto Rico. And possibly Canada. And as the fugly Scion iA.




WTF.

I'm hugely disappointed in Mazda for not bringing this car here.  The new 2 was a big improvement over the old one.

And that Scion monstrosity deserves to be crushed the minute its unloaded off the transporter just for being so damn ugly.