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Started by FoMoJo, August 26, 2014, 05:59:31 AM


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Fuck- Ghosn has been ARRESTED and booted from Nissan over "serious misconduct"

I'm telling you man... auto industry is teetering. Every weak player I can think of... Ford, Hyundai/Kia, Mitsubishi, Nissan, GM, FCA.... scrambling

You see shit at the dealer level with them but I think we will start seeing more high level scandals break too
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MX793

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 19, 2018, 06:02:06 AM
Fuck- Ghosn has been ARRESTED and booted from Nissan over "serious misconduct"

I'm telling you man... auto industry is teetering. Every weak player I can think of... Ford, Hyundai/Kia, Mitsubishi, Nissan, GM, FCA.... scrambling

You see shit at the dealer level with them but I think we will start seeing more high level scandals break too

Sounds like it was more personal level misconduct rather than corporate misconduct (like Dieselgate or fuel economy fraud).  Under-reporting his compensation (likely for tax evasion) is what I've read, along with personal use of company assets.  This sort of thing can and does happen in all industries.
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cawimmer430

Quote from: Xer0 on November 18, 2018, 03:55:23 PM
Eh.

That dog though  :wub:

His name is Gus, and he's a French Bulldog. I love the little guy!  :wub:
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FoMoJo

Quote from: MX793 on November 19, 2018, 06:46:39 AM
Sounds like it was more personal level misconduct rather than corporate misconduct (like Dieselgate or fuel economy fraud).  Under-reporting his compensation (likely for tax evasion) is what I've read, along with personal use of company assets.  This sort of thing can and does happen in all industries.
He was a big deal in the auto industry for awhile.  Turns out he's just another thief. :nutty:

Guys like that piss me off.
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cawimmer430

Ugh, another delay!  :banghead:

I was supposed to pick up my new car tomorrow. Now the dealership tells me it will arrive a few days late.

You know, I am on another forum where the guys in the UK and Australia already have their new A-Classes. Why are deliveries for the German market taking so long?  :lockedup:
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BimmerM3

Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 19, 2018, 01:26:13 PM
Ugh, another delay!  :banghead:

I was supposed to pick up my new car tomorrow. Now the dealership tells me it will arrive a few days late.

You know, I am on another forum where the guys in the UK and Australia already have their new A-Classes. Why are deliveries for the German market taking so long?  :lockedup:


Maybe higher demand?

MX793

Quote from: FoMoJo on November 19, 2018, 11:35:39 AM
He was a big deal in the auto industry for awhile.  Turns out he's just another thief. :nutty:

Guys like that piss me off.

He spent a lot of time doing business in Brazil and Latin America (working for Michelin and Renault).  I wonder if the lack of corporate ethics and rampant corruption that is standard operating procedure down there just rubbed off on him.
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cawimmer430

Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 19, 2018, 02:09:42 PM
Maybe higher demand?

This car is in high demand at the moment, so it's logical that the production lines are running at maximum capacity.

Still, there are now two delivery dates which have been postponed. It's just annoying, especially since I have no car at the moment to drive; the BMW is hovering at 244,800ish km and Mercedes' wants to buy it from me with a mileage of 245,000 km. If I go over that mileage they will pay me less money for the car...
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BimmerM3

Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 19, 2018, 05:10:57 PM
This car is in high demand at the moment, so it's logical that the production lines are running at maximum capacity.

Still, there are now two delivery dates which have been postponed. It's just annoying, especially since I have no car at the moment to drive; the BMW is hovering at 244,800ish km and Mercedes' wants to buy it from me with a mileage of 245,000 km. If I go over that mileage they will pay me less money for the car...

That's fucked up. Call them up and tell them that they need to either give you a loaner or honor the higher price even if you go over the mileage.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 19, 2018, 05:10:57 PM
This car is in high demand at the moment, so it's logical that the production lines are running at maximum capacity.

Still, there are now two delivery dates which have been postponed. It's just annoying, especially since I have no car at the moment to drive; the BMW is hovering at 244,800ish km and Mercedes' wants to buy it from me with a mileage of 245,000 km. If I go over that mileage they will pay me less money for the car...

It sucks not having a car to drive. You clearly need some help. Wire me the money for this, plus freight, and I will see that it is shipped directly to you by the end of the month
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MexicoCityM3

Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 19, 2018, 05:10:57 PM
This car is in high demand at the moment, so it's logical that the production lines are running at maximum capacity.

Still, there are now two delivery dates which have been postponed. It's just annoying, especially since I have no car at the moment to drive; the BMW is hovering at 244,800ish km and Mercedes' wants to buy it from me with a mileage of 245,000 km. If I go over that mileage they will pay me less money for the car...

How much less?
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MexicoCityM3

Quote from: MX793 on November 19, 2018, 03:18:38 PM
He spent a lot of time doing business in Brazil and Latin America (working for Michelin and Renault).  I wonder if the lack of corporate ethics and rampant corruption that is standard operating procedure down there just rubbed off on him.

Yeah EVERYONE who does business here becomes crooked. FFS man.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on November 20, 2018, 06:42:50 PM
Yeah EVERYONE who does business here becomes crooked. FFS man.

Better watch out for the IRS, buddy.  :pullover:
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FoMoJo

Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 20, 2018, 06:43:58 PM
Better watch out for the IRS, buddy.  :pullover:
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MX793

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on November 20, 2018, 06:42:50 PM
Yeah EVERYONE who does business here becomes crooked. FFS man.

Not saying all of Latin America is problematic, but corruption and unethical business conduct are rampant in Brazil and have been for a long time.  Ghosn spent a good chunk of his career running businesses/divisions in Brazil.
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FoMoJo

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"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

MX793

Quote from: FoMoJo on November 21, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
A little bit of automotive history, and more...Bar Fights, Lawsuits and the Flu Pandemic: The War Between Henry Ford and the Dodge Brothers

An interesting read.

On a related note to this topic, The Cars that Made America series from the History Channel delves into the Ford/Dodge connection and is a must-see for anyone interested in American automotive history and the men who built the Big 3.
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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: MX793 on November 21, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
On a related note to this topic, The Cars that Made America series from the History Channel delves into the Ford/Dodge connection and is a must-see for anyone interested in American automotive history and the men who built the Big 3.
i watched all those episodes. I never knew how deep that connection was!
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FoMoJo

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on November 21, 2018, 12:43:39 PM
i watched all those episodes. I never knew how deep that connection was!
The first Ford Model A became Cadillac, if I recall correctly.

I found this paragraph...

The lawsuit brought by the brothers against Ford became the legal basis for the idea that companies exist primarily to generate profits for shareholders, setting the stage for the aggressive rise of the American corporation.

...rather telling.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: FoMoJo on November 21, 2018, 12:58:00 PM
The first Ford Model A became Cadillac, if I recall correctly.

I found this paragraph...

The lawsuit brought by the brothers against Ford became the legal basis for the idea that companies exist primarily to generate profits for shareholders, setting the stage for the aggressive rise of the American corporation.

...rather telling.

Yes, and no.

The Henry Ford Co.'s Model A provided much of the tooling for the first Cadillac. The Henry Ford Company is different than the later Ford Company, and different than the Ford Model A.
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Drove the family up to the mountains. We will def need a 2.5 row if baby #2 comes. Maybe a minivan if we have another kid and get another dog :cry:
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FoMoJo

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 22, 2018, 09:44:37 AM
Drove the family up to the mountains. We will def need a 2.5 row if baby #2 comes. Maybe a minivan if we have another kid and get another dog :cry:
Every guy needs to experience a minivan. 
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cawimmer430

No such thing as a "free loaner" here. Need a car from the dealership? Pay for it (aka rent it).

Anyway, new delivery date is Monday the 26th of November. So either I can pick up the car on Monday or Tuesday. We'll see...




Saw this today! The B-Team! For when the A-Team isn't available! :lol:


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cawimmer430

Quote from: 93JC on November 22, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
"If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and even the A-Team won't take the job, maybe you can hire... The B-Team."

Brilliant. :lol:
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FoMoJo

Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 22, 2018, 12:14:17 PM

Anyway, new delivery date is Monday the 26th of November. So either I can pick up the car on Monday or Tuesday. We'll see...

If you're lucky, you might get it by Christmas :huh:.
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