Car Chat

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Great, more laws to fix stupidity and increase complexity and cost.

[NomisR]

Darwinism seems like a good idea...

[Laconian]

My Mustang honks the horn if I get out with the key and close the door while the car is running.  It's the same honk you get when you remotely lock the doors, though.  So someone might just assume it was the door lock confirmation honk.  Of course, if you can't hear a Mustang idling in the close confines of an enclosed garage, you're probably too deaf to hear the horn honk.

Correct, we must mandate a solution that accommodates 85 year old FOGs.

[FoMoJo]

Correct, we must mandate a solution that accommodates 85 year old FOGs.

[12,000 RPM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CefQUhmbqIM

[Galaxy]

This is the most red neck thing I have seen but it seems like fun.





https://youtu.be/q6o_PQWV1ik?t=233

[Galaxy]

One the one hand it is a bit disappointing that they are moving away from separate E Brand, but I guess they are becoming more prevalent.

[12,000 RPM]

What are we looking at here Galaxy

530e?

[Galaxy]

Apparently a 720hp Porsche Taycan fighter. No word on whether it is 1 year, two years or longer away. Some German magazine journalists were told that it does not yet have the final batteries installed.

[giant_mtb]

Looks really nice, unlike some other recent BMWs. 

[BimmerM3]

Looks really nice, unlike some other recent BMWs. 

I think that's just the current 5er with an electric powertrain. The styling isn't anything unique (other than the random bumper camo, furthering my theory that car camo is actually designed to make the cars stand out to get free press).

[12,000 RPM]

Yea, the camo just gives it some much needed flavor. 5er remains as bland as it's been since 2011.

[giant_mtb]

Yea, the camo just gives it some much needed flavor. 5er remains as bland as it's been since 2011.

I guess I have a soft spot for subtle, stately, large cars.  Not everything needs to be crazy and edgy like a Civic.

[CALL_911]

I think the E60 and the F10 are some of the best looking sedans on the road

[12,000 RPM]

I love the E60; hate the F10. F10 has no tension or athleticism. It looks middle aged, in a bad way.

[BimmerM3]

Yea, the camo just gives it some much needed flavor. 5er remains as bland as it's been since 2011.

Oh, I didn't mean that. I think it's a fine looking vehicle. I was just pointing out that it's not new.

[giant_mtb]

[Galaxy]

So BMW Head of Design Adrian van Hooydonk  has talked about the controversy regarding the giant grill. I guess they were expecting controversy, but not this level of hate. Anyways the good news is that future 7 Series should get smaller grilles again. No, no, no, not that  van Hooydonk and his team made any mistakes but because Chinese tastes are becoming more subtle. Whatever.

[Soup DeVille]

So BMW Head of Design Adrian van Hooydonk  has talked about the controversy regarding the giant grill. I guess they were expecting controversy, but not this level of hate. Anyways the good news is that future 7 Series should get smaller grilles again. No, no, no, not that  van Hooydonk and his team made any mistakes but because Chinese tastes are becoming more subtle. Whatever.

Are we designing cars around Chinese tastes now?

[Laconian]

Why wouldn't they? That's the growth market for lux.

[FoMoJo]

A real problem...'Very Smart People,' but a Keyless Car's Downside Killed Them

For Sherry H. Penney, a former university chancellor, and her husband, James D. Livingston, a retired physicist, the 2017 Toyota Avalon was a sensible purchase. It was a model she and her husband had owned before, but the new version had electronic sensors and other advanced features.

Ms. Penney, 81, and Mr. Livingston, 88, were found dead at their home in Sarasota, Fla., poisoned by carbon monoxide, according to preliminary tests by the local medical examiner. Susan Livingston said that after the car — which had a keyless ignition — pulled into the garage attached to their house, the engine had continued to run.

I've stabbed the button on mine to turn it off a couple of times, and didn't quite make the appropriate contact.  Can't tell from sitting inside whether it's still running it's so damned quiet.  Always look at the tach before I get out now.

[Laconian]

I wonder what the fatality rate is for people leaving regular keys in the car?

[Soup DeVille]

I wonder what the fatality rate is for people leaving regular keys in the car?

A fair question.

I like to know equipment I'm working on is "locked out." Easy with a car, you just take the key out of the ignition and put it in your pocket. Except now, that won't work anymore.

[FoMoJo]

I wonder what the fatality rate is for people leaving regular keys in the car?

We do things by rote.  Removing a key is an action that some do not think about.  Pushing a button is also something some do not think about.  However, the key will be in your pocket and the ignition switched off if it's a keyed ignition.  Not pushing the button far enough will result in the car still running and the key still in your pocket.

[Laconian]

My cars make very loud beeps when I exit them with the engine running. Doesn't yours?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Ranger doesn't give a fuck.

[Soup DeVille]

My cars make very loud beeps when I exit them with the engine running. Doesn't yours?

Weird thing happened with the Dakota the other day. Hit the stop button and got out as usual, but the car beeps at me "Accessory still on."

Apparently because my phone was plugged into the USB aux, the system was waiting on the phone to shut down or something? Anyways, unplugged the phone and had to start/stop the button again to get it to shut down normally.

I'm wondering now what other buggy behavior these do from time to time.

[Laconian]

Honey Ranger

[Eye of the Tiger]

Weird thing happened with the Dakota the other day. Hit the stop button and got out as usual, but the car beeps at me "Accessory still on."

Apparently because my phone was plugged into the USB aux, the system was waiting on the phone to shut down or something? Anyways, unplugged the phone and had to start/stop the button again to get it to shut down normally.

I'm wondering now what other buggy behavior these do from time to time.

Dakota definitely doesn't do that.

[Soup DeVille]

Dakota definitely doesn't do that.

Sorry, Durango.