CTS-V

[Rich]

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/22/2016-cadillac-cts-v-official-photos-detroit-auto-show/

I like the wheel/tire relationship to the body.  I think it looks great.  I think it'll drive pretty well too based on reviews of the lesser CTS.

Ask the company's executive team, and they'll tell you "this is the maximum Cadillac V-Series." It's the 2016 CTS-V sedan, and it packs the very best of what's possible at Cadillac. And the company says it doesn't think "anyone thought it was possible that we could push [the CTS-V] this far."

The big news is what's underhood: General Motors' supercharged, 6.2-liter LT4 V8, tuned to 640 horsepower and 630 pound-feet of torque. That's 10 hp and 20 lb-ft less than the monstrous Corvette Z06, and the result is the most powerful car Cadillac has ever produced. With rear-wheel drive, launch control and the eight-speed automatic transmission (sorry, folks – no more manual transmission here), Cadillac says the 2016 CTS-V will sprint to 60 miles per hour in just 3.7 seconds, on its way to a top speed of 200 miles per hour.

Naturally, Cadillac's engineers say they have tuned the CTS-V to ensure it can put all that power to the ground with the most precision and poise possible. That starts with the excellent Magnetic Ride Control active damping system (with a claimed 40-percent increase in responsiveness)and a 25-percent increase in structural stiffness that should improve overall handling and steering. What's more, a high-performance Brembo brake package comes standard, as do 19-inch alloy wheels wrapped in seriously sticky Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires that will reportedly offer 1g in lateral acceleration.

Cadillac also says that all changes to the bodywork are functional. That includes a carbon-fiber hood, front splitter, rear spoiler and diffuser that are super light and aid with aerodynamics and weight reduction – all of which will be available as an optional package for folks who like the exposed carbon look. Inside, it's more of what we're used to on lesser CTS models, but there's newly optional carbon fiber trim, microfiber suede upholstery trim, and some seriously awesome Recaro seats.

[SVT666]

The old CTS-V is probably still a better performer and it looks better too.

[GoCougs]

Looks fantastic though the black wing on the silver car is out of place and the lower rear valance is a bit busy. The mags went goo-goo ga-ga over the CTS-VSport so this will be monster. GM is crushing it with its performance cars these days. Who would have ever thought...

[CALL_911]

Wow hell yeah

[Rich]

I love this picture

[12,000 RPM]

The old CTS-V is probably still a better performer and it looks better too.

Im with you

Rear quarter also has too much metal. Car needs bigger wheels and wheel openings. Should be riding 22s like a Panamera

[Rich]

I don't think so

640hp>550hp. I believe they are about the same weight. 8speed = faster than a 6 speed. Bigger wheels = more unsprung weight. Cadillac wanted to make a sports sedan and not a posuer car like the Panamera

[MrH]

Yeah, why do you guys keep saying the old one will be faster?

I don't understand that at all. More power, should be the same weight or less, better transmission...

[12,000 RPM]

I don't think so

640hp>550hp. I believe they are about the same weight. 8speed = faster than a 6 speed. Bigger wheels = more unsprung weight. Cadillac wanted to make a sports sedan and not a posuer car like the Panamera

In the right trim the Panamera is easily the driver's car of this segment

[Rich]

In the right trim the Panamera is easily the driver's car of this segment

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Yeah, why do you guys keep saying the old one will be faster?

I don't understand that at all. More power, should be the same weight or less, better transmission...

[MrH]

This is the first -V vehicle I'm really excited about.  Hands down the best looking one so far.  The last CTS-V was pretty ugly.  The ATS-V kind of is too.

[SVT666]

Yeah, why do you guys keep saying the old one will be faster?

I don't understand that at all. More power, should be the same weight or less, better transmission...

Never said the old one will be faster. I said the old one will probably be the better performer, as in, handling.  The old car is physically smaller and drove like the M3, and I have a feeling the new car will be more like the M5 than the M3. Besides, the new CTS-V has the same engine as the Z06 so it only has 640 hp for 15 seconds, and then it drops off a cliff.

[Raza]

Like the ATS-V, this is a bit too over the top styling-wise for me.  Give me the old CTS-V coupe, with a 6 speed manual. 

[GoCougs]

Yeah, why do you guys keep saying the old one will be faster?

I don't understand that at all. More power, should be the same weight or less, better transmission...

"You guys" is only one person; of course new CTS-V will be a better performing car than the old one.

[Soup DeVille]

Never said the old one will be faster. I said the old one will probably be the better performer, as in, handling.  The old car is physically smaller and drove like the M3, and I have a feeling the new car will be more like the M5 than the M3. Besides, the new CTS-V has the same engine as the Z06 so it only has 640 hp for 15 seconds, and then it drops off a cliff.

Be honest; how long do you think you'll be able to keep the pedal to the floor on a 600+ hp car ever?

[68_427]

Never said the old one will be faster. I said the old one will probably be the better performer, as in, handling.  The old car is physically smaller and drove like the M3, and I have a feeling the new car will be more like the M5 than the M3. Besides, the new CTS-V has the same engine as the Z06 so it only has 640 hp for 15 seconds, and then it drops off a cliff.

Have you read any reviews on the new CTS? 

[GoCougs]

Be honest; how long do you think you'll be able to keep the pedal to the floor on a 600+ hp car ever?

Didn't you hear - ANY car with ANY pretense of "performance" should be a race car - if it can't be driven like a race car, up to an including hot lapping for hours on end, it's a failure.

Peruse the boards for M5, RS7, or E63 for their "track" performance - they suffer in no time. My hunch is the CTS-V will last longer...

[SVT666]

Didn't you hear - ANY car with ANY pretense of "performance" should be a race car - if it can't be driven like a race car, up to an including hot lapping for hours on end, it's a failure.

GM apologism at it's best.

[SVT666]

Be honest; how long do you think you'll be able to keep the pedal to the floor on a 600+ hp car ever?

Read up on the Z06 problems.  It's not that it only has full power for a short blast, it's that once you have made that blast, you no longer have full power....period. And the power keeps dropping with every successive full throttle run.  You have to shut your car off and wait for it to reset itself.  This is not acceptable in any car, never mind a balls out performance car like the Z06.  Go over to Corvette Forums and you will see all kinds of discussion about it.

There is one thread where a guy talks about how his Z06 continually lost more and more power with every highway run he had against a GT-R (illegal and stupid, I know).  First run, he beats the GT-R by a car length, second: win by half a car length, third: they were tied, fourth: loss with Z06 nose at the GT-R's rear wheels, fifth: loss by a car length, sixth: loss by two car lengths, and on the seventh it was even worse, and his car had almost 900 miles on the clock, so so much for GM's "500 mile" break in explanation.

[r0tor]

Looks really good but too large and heavy for my personal taste

[Payman]

100x better looking than the old one.

[GoCougs]

Be honest; how long do you think you'll be able to keep the pedal to the floor on a 600+ hp car ever?

47 hours.

[Payman]

Most 600+ hp cars will empty their fuel tanks in less than 15 minutes at full throttle.

[MexicoCityM3]

In the right trim the Panamera is easily the driver's car of this segment

The Jag XF-R ain't shabby as a driver's car.

[MexicoCityM3]

This will be a serious candidate for M5 replacement come December 2015.

We'll see.

[12,000 RPM]

The Jag XF-R ain't shabby as a driver's car.

Its no Panamera GTS

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Power aside, GM has been doing pretty well the last 2-3 generations on these cadillacs. Still don't see why I'd ever buy one over a benz/bmw or audi. Especially with all the rollout issues gm is having with their new powerplant.

[MexicoCityM3]

Its no Panamera GTS

Admittedly the only Panamera I've driven was an S Hybrid for a couple of laps. Nothing special at all.

[MexicoCityM3]

Power aside, GM has been doing pretty well the last 2-3 generations on these cadillacs. Still don't see why I'd ever buy one over a benz/bmw or audi. Especially with all the rollout issues gm is having with their new powerplant.

The overheating issues that are an issue on the Z06 aren't as important here IMO. This car is too heavy to seriously track anyway. Like the M5.