The Official Sixth Gen Camaro Thread!

[giant_mtb]

Srsly wtf u gaiz.

[CaminoRacer]

Just gonna dump this here to redeem the thread. Haven't even watched it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubd1nEbDaZg

[SJ_GTI]

I am disappoint about Gougs not getting the Camaro, but an Audi Allroad is a pretty cool substitute. 

[Lebowski]

The G has a more robust AWD system that is capable of sustained periods of dual transaxle activity and an option to lock it on a 50/50 split. The Honda can only send 40%, can't lock the split, and can't cope with extended use. It's fine for moderate snow but it's not the ideal setup for more heavy conditions. Coug's ATTESA was a better winter drivetrain and the QUATTRO would be even better still. Not that you couldn't make due with the CRV, or that it doesn't have plenty of advantages over the Infiniti/Audi, but the AWD setup isn't one of them.

I didn't say the AWD system is the best but the total package is imo. Also note before the G he had an accord, and seemed happy as far as that meeting his needs as well.

[12,000 RPM]

I was just thinking about it... weird that there are no serious Japanese alternatives to the X3/Q5 etc. Next RDX could be a compelling choice if Cougs is tough enough to look past the soccer mom image. I am not

[Lebowski]

I was just thinking about it... weird that there are no serious Japanese alternatives to the X3/Q5 etc. Next RDX could be a compelling choice if Cougs is tough enough to look past the soccer mom image. I am not

Lexus RX outsells them both in the US

[GoCougs]

CR-V is definitely one of the best vehicles on sale, at any price, right up there with the Accord, Camry, and a few others. It's not for everyone however. I want something that at least (about) matches the G in performance. The Allroad doesn't quite cut it, but it's close, once the the responsiveness of the DSG is taken into account.

[GoCougs]

Pretty sure PTM has a wet mode.




EDIT:  Just saw the other posts.  Allroad is ok, but it's no CRV

I'm sure it does. But wet roads are still a significant detriment to performance. The G, at about the same weight with just half the power and AWD, moves around a notable amount in the wet.

[MX793]

HTF hard are some of you people driving on public streets that a wet road surface forces you to significantly back down your pace?  Only place I've ever driven where a wet road made things slick enough that I had to be mindful of it was the American Southwest (Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas, SoCal), where it seldom rains and there gets to be a lot of oily buildup on the road that turns into a oil slick when it first gets wet.  Anyplace where it rains regularly, the roads just aren't that slick when wet save for the very initial dampening after a prolonged dry spell (5-6 days).  My car, on the OE Pirellis (which were rated worst in class for wet grip) would still pull at least .7g of lateral grip in the wet before they even hinted at slipping.  I have recorded data of the car pulling .8g at an auto-x in a heavy rain with standing water over much of the surface.  That's a lot of lateral acceleration to be pulling on the street.  Like >45 mph around a 200 ft radius bend (which would typically carry a 20 mph recommended maximum speed).  That's the kind of lateral G that would result in any loose items in the car getting flung into the doors.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

HTF hard are some of you people driving on public streets that a wet road surface forces you to significantly back down your pace?  Only place I've ever driven where a wet road made things slick enough that I had to be mindful of it was the American Southwest (Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas, SoCal), where it seldom rains and there gets to be a lot of oily buildup on the road that turns into a oil slick when it first gets wet.  Anyplace where it rains regularly, the roads just aren't that slick when wet save for the very initial dampening after a prolonged dry spell (5-6 days).  My car, on the OE Pirellis (which were rated worst in class for wet grip) would still pull at least .7g of lateral grip in the wet before they even hinted at slipping.  I have recorded data of the car pulling .8g at an auto-x in a heavy rain with standing water over much of the surface.  That's a lot of lateral acceleration to be pulling on the street.  Like >45 mph around a 200 ft radius bend (which would typically carry a 20 mph recommended maximum speed).  That's the kind of lateral G that would result in any loose items in the car getting flung into the doors.

Maybe I'm getting old but these guys seem like some hard chargers! 

[afty]

Here in CA the road surface gets really slick when it rains, because it rains so rarely. It's pretty easy to break traction.

[12,000 RPM]

ITs not so much about steady state speed as it is what happens when you apply power. IF you are rounding a curve at a reasonable 0.3-0.4g and you give it some gas in a lowish gear you can def break traction no problem.

[MX793]

ITs not so much about steady state speed as it is what happens when you apply power. IF you are rounding a curve at a reasonable 0.3-0.4g and you give it some gas in a lowish gear you can def break traction no problem.

There is very little steady state in Auto-x.  IME, if you live someplace that gets frequent rainfall, the roads just aren't that slick.  You still have at least 70% of the grip you have in the dry.  If you are having to back it down when the roads are wet, that implies you regularly drive at 7/10ths+ on the street.  That's pretty damn aggressive for "normal" driving.  Especially in a modern, performance-oriented vehicle like a G, 3-series, etc.

[giant_mtb]

There is very little steady state in Auto-x.  IME, if you live someplace that gets frequent rainfall, the roads just aren't that slick.  You still have at least 70% of the grip you have in the dry.  If you are having to back it down when the roads are wet, that implies you regularly drive at 7/10ths+ on the street.  That's pretty damn aggressive for "normal" driving.  Especially in a modern, performance-oriented vehicle like a G, 3-series, etc.

Sporty once claimed he goes through brake pads every ~10k miles.  He's super aggro.

[Raza]

I am disappoint about Gougs not getting the Camaro, but an Audi Allroad is a pretty cool substitute. 

Way cooler than a Camaro, to be honest. The Camaro is a tryhard car.

[12,000 RPM]

Way cooler than a Camaro, to be honest. The Camaro is a tryhard car.

A4 Allroad = poser class, and by extension is also a try hard car.

Better to try hard and poser fail, than.... something something

[Lebowski]

Trying be cool is not cool. Therefore the CRV is the coolest thing on the road.

[r0tor]

CRV is on a roll... Didn't get selected on an enthusiast level for C&D's 10 best and didn't win on Cars.com is a comparo based on practicality

[Lebowski]

CRV is on a roll... Didn't get selected on an enthusiast level for C&D's 10 best and didn't win on Cars.com is a comparo based on practicality

The CRVenvy is strong in this one.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Way cooler than a Camaro, to be honest. The Camaro is a tryhard car.

[giant_mtb]

CRV is on a roll... Didn't get selected on an enthusiast level for C&D's 10 best and didn't win on Cars.com is a comparo based on practicality

Did the RX-8 ever win any 10-best enthusiast or practicality comparos?  My guess is a hard no.  Silly logic.

[AutobahnSHO]

HTF hard are some of you people driving on public streets that a wet road surface forces you to significantly back down your pace?  Only place I've ever driven where a wet road made things slick enough that I had to be mindful of it was the American Southwest (Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas, SoCal), where it seldom rains and there gets to be a lot of oily buildup on the road that turns into a oil slick when it first gets wet.  Anyplace where it rains regularly, the roads just aren't that slick when wet save for the very initial dampening after a prolonged dry spell (5-6 days).  My car, on the OE Pirellis (which were rated worst in class for wet grip) would still pull at least .7g of lateral grip in the wet before they even hinted at slipping.  I have recorded data of the car pulling .8g at an auto-x in a heavy rain with standing water over much of the surface.  That's a lot of lateral acceleration to be pulling on the street.  Like >45 mph around a 200 ft radius bend (which would typically carry a 20 mph recommended maximum speed).  That's the kind of lateral G that would result in any loose items in the car getting flung into the doors.

When it rained in GA I used to get blocks ahead of people I was next to when the light turned green. In my super streetfighter 18yr-old Legacy.

[MX793]

When it rained in GA I used to get blocks ahead of people I was next to when the light turned green. In my super streetfighter 18yr-old Legacy.

Were the cars around you spinning their tires and struggling for traction, or were they just afraid of driving in the rain?

[CaminoRacer]

Were the cars around you spinning their tires and struggling for traction, or were they just afraid of driving in the rain?

I'm betting they all melted. Like the wicked witch of the west

[r0tor]

Did the RX-8 ever win any 10-best enthusiast or practicality comparos?  My guess is a hard no.  Silly logic.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/2005-10best-cars-2005-mazda-rx-8-page-11

[giant_mtb]

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/2005-10best-cars-2005-mazda-rx-8-page-11

Congratulations on your magazine win.

[r0tor]

Congratulations on your magazine win.

Many more comparo wins I can serve up if you want

[giant_mtb]

Many more comparo wins I can serve up if you want

...ask me if I care. I don't get triggered by people's choice of vehicles. You proved me wrong, move along.

[r0tor]

Alrighty then 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Camaros anyone????
https://youtu.be/XP6fdBHSdi0