The Official Sixth Gen Camaro Thread!

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I don't concern myself about the incorrect actions of average people.

[GoCougs]

One of the other press releases I read said that forward visibility improved by virtue of relocating the center HVAC registers to the bottom of the center stack, but rearward visibility got worse (somewhat less problematic with a backup camera, but still makes lane changes a leap of faith).  With how high the beltline is, lateral visibility will still be horrible. 
EDIT:  Found some pics



^^^Look at the driver's head through the side window.  The window sill is at mouth level (nearly to the driver's ears)!



^^^ You can actually see the tops of the driver's shoulders above the window sill in the S550.


I'm glad that they were able to improve at least the visibility in one direction (front), since the Camaro5 had poor sightlines all around.  When they improve the visibility out of the sides, I'll consider one.

Not so sure that's a legit occupant in the Camaro. Looks shopped to me. Either way the camo is definitely applied to the lower portion of the side window.

And that's one big fella in the Mustang .

[MX793]

The Camaro photo is from C&D's prototype/mule test drive.  It's not a chop.  I'm not sure there's any camo actually on glass on the Camaro pictured.  Otherwise the window wouldn't be able to raise and lower (which is necessary even on mules).  The camo does cover the window surround (which often makes windows look larger), but doesn't appear to be on any of the glass.

The guy in the Mustang is probably a bit bigger/taller than average, but every press photo I can find in C&D or MT or wherever clearly shows that the entirety of the driver's head, if not the top of the shoulder, is above the window sill level.

Here's one from MotorTrend


an early spy shot of a test mule

[12,000 RPM]

Lel.

[MX793]

Wow, looks like the entire trunk is quite small, not just the opening.

[12,000 RPM]

What the hell is between the trunk and the rear fenders

Maybe these things wont be so practical after all. Trunk looks like it wont hold more than a gallon of milk and a small cereal box

[ifcar]

Either way the camo is definitely applied to the lower portion of the side window.

That was my first thought as well, but when I went to look up a picture to prove it, it looks like the relation between the mirror and glass is the same:

[ifcar]

Lel.

If that's as bad as it looks, it may prove to be yet another GM miscalculation about the value of providing some amount of utility even in a fun car. See Pontiac Solstice and Cadillac ATS as other examples. The Camaro's sales figures put it in the mainstream -- it can't be downright useless.

[GoCougs]

That was my first thought as well, but when I went to look up a picture to prove it, it looks like the relation between the mirror and glass is the same:

Maybe. It just looks like there is a vertical strip of camo on the bottom of the window - not huge but definitely taller than the black framing.

[12,000 RPM]

Its def not much.... use the mirror handle as a reference point

either way visibility out is gonna be shit. It looks like a basement

[MX793]

If what I saw posted in the comments at MT is correct, this car has even less headroom than the old one and a full inch less than the Mustang.

[12,000 RPM]

Ha so a crawl space.

[Cookie Monster]

Holy crap that trunk is terrible.

On the plus side, the space between the trunk panels and fenders is probably handy for smuggling drugs and/or body parts.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

These cars aren't any more practical than a Corvette, in reality. Though many do buy into the illusion of practicality because of the rear seats and "larger" passenger cabin.

[giant_mtb]

I love that you rotate the trim ring around the vents to control the temperature.

Me too.  That's really neat.

[afty]

Autoblog drove the prototype.  They liked it. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/05/17/2016-chevrolet-camaro-prototype-first-drive/

After driving both, it's almost surprising how much better the 2016 model feels than the '15 we tested first for comparison. It stays buttoned-up at times when the old car would have been all over the place. The new Camaro is also about two inches shorter in length and wheelbase. It's hard to quantify that during a couple of hot laps, but judging by the car's improved reflexes, it seems to have helped. The last generation relied on raw power and sophisticated engineering to compete with the sporty Ford Mustang, but it also felt closer to Dodge's hefty Challenger. Now, the athletic 2016 Camaro is much more in step with the 'Stang.

[12,000 RPM]

Strange, C&D said the prototype was such a mess they couldn't get a feel for a lot of basic attributes.

Autoblog has always been low key puff piece journalism though so I'm not surprised.

[GoCougs]

So what manner of life do you guys stuff into your trunks???

[Rich]

An extra wheel/tire on a road trip, new tires shipped in from tire rack that I need to take to the tire shop (admittedly something I wouldn't really need to do in the U.S.) ... large deployment bags.

[SJ_GTI]

An extra wheel/tire on a road trip, new tires shipped in from tire rack that I need to take to the tire shop ...

I guess I could see that working with a smaller car, but FWIW I cannot get my wheels/tires in to my car even with the seat folded down. I don't think I could get more than 1 to fit in the trunk by itself.

19 inch wheels/tires are simply too big. I think the Camaro comes with taller and fatter wheels than my car (255/35R19).

[12,000 RPM]

Just this weekend I loaded the Civic up with

- garage storage cabinets and drawers
- a whole heap of crap I left at the apartment (wood planks, computers, stationery, vacuum cleaner)

I dont think u could put a basketball in the Camaro's trunk. Thats pretty sad. I dont want to make this out to be another Z06gate but I think it's critical they make this thing at least somewhat usable.

[GoCougs]

Tires seems like once every few years. FWIW, I couldn't/can't fit four tires in either the Accord or G37 trunk - I can fit two, and even one takes up a lot of space.

[Cookie Monster]

I was able to deflate one of my tires and throw the wheel and tire into the trunk. I don't think you could even fit the Miata's 16" wheel/tire combo (or even the wheel alone) through that trunk opening on the Camaro... sad...

[GoCougs]

C'mon, guys, need to try harder than this.

[Cookie Monster]

C'mon, guys, need to try harder than this.

Try harder than what?



Look at how much bigger that trunk opening is. There is no reason the Camaro's trunk should be so tiny, especially since it's supposed to be more practical than the Corvette.

[GoCougs]

Complaining about a trunk, esp. its "opening" size, slots somewhere between complaining about cup holders and seat stitching.

[Rich]

I'd still need the car for runs to the airport

That's something I think the corvette would probably be easier to live with.

[MrH]

The better weight distribution, better aerodynamics and lower center of gravity of the corvette are just a few benefits that can't be denied and are not subjective. Also, it at least has the profile and design of a proper high performance car.

Are those things worth $20k+ though? To most people, probably not.

[68_427]

All you fuckers complaining just buy a $2k beater waggin

[ifcar]

Complaining about a trunk, esp. its "opening" size, slots somewhere between complaining about cup holders and seat stitching.

The Camaro is presumably many people's daily driver and/or only car, not a weekend toy. It needs some measure of utility.