The Official Sixth Gen Camaro Thread!

[GoCougs]

Chubba Chedda took a preproduction model for a drive. He says 133 lbs came off the the body shell and the rest is via AL in suspension and various bits. He also implies visibility has been improved via lower cowl and thinner A-pillars.

[68_427]

The V6 will kick the shit out of the Ecob00st

[12,000 RPM]

The V6 will kick the shit out of the Ecob00st

but u cant chip the V6 brah

188"..... thats longer than a lot of roomier cars. Most notably the last M3 sedan. And this has a tiny trunk and back seat. The LT1 is tiny. Why is this thing so big? These things should all be fox body size.

[GoCougs]

The V6 will kick the shit out of the Ecob00st

$28k for 335 hp and 3,450 lbs is a pretty big deal.

[Submariner]

$28k for 335 hp and 3,450 lbs is a pretty big deal.

Growing up, my dads 250 HP LS 400 was powerful, as was his 282 HP 740i.  For a time he was looking at the 1st generation S55 (non-supercharged) with 354 HP.  That was a big deal in 2002, and now you can get 335 HP in what amounts to a mainstream car.  Amazing.

[68_427]

$28k for 335 hp and 3,450 lbs is a pretty big deal.

Plus the sound and non shitty powerband

[12,000 RPM]

Prob will weigh a good bit less too. Damn Ford low key has a mess on its hands.

[SVT666]

Prob will weigh a good bit less too. Damn Ford low key has a mess on its hands.

Yeah, Ford dropped the ball in the weight department.

[MX793]

Yeah, Ford dropped the ball in the weight department.

Powertrain strategy as well.

[GoCougs]

Plus the sound and non shitty powerband

It's said to have available all SS performance options - Brembos, dual mode exhaust, wheels/tires, etc. - save for MagneRide.

[68_427]

I thought Magnaride was going to be available for all engine options?  Maybe it was trim levels on the SS.  Idk.

[SVT666]

Powertrain strategy as well.

Yeah, that too.  Ford did a great job on the GT (other than weight), but otherwise they really screwed up on the new Stang.  The styling looks great too.

[GoCougs]

Walk around and interior review:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv1nbeZoPY4

Outward visibility is greatly improved - look how low that dash is now...

[MX793]

There's more to outward visibility than straight ahead.  And even that still doesn't look great on the Gen6.  Lateral and rearward visibility both look abismal still.  The rear window opening in particular looks like it may be even worse than the Gen5.

[MX793]

For comparison's sake, screen captures from POV vids of Gen6 Camaro and S550 Mustang test drives.

[Cookie Monster]

No wonder Jalopnik crashed it.

[SVT666]

That header is really low.  I sat in the new Mustang and I lowered the seat as far as it would go and it still felt like the header was really low, and the Camaro's is even lower.  And the A-pillar in the Camaro is noticeably thicker, which is typical of most GM vehicles. 

[MX793]

That header is really low.  I sat in the new Mustang and I lowered the seat as far as it would go and it still felt like the header was really low, and the Camaro's is even lower.  And the A-pillar in the Camaro is noticeably thicker, which is typical of most GM vehicles. 

S550's header is a little bit lower than the S197.  But I still feel I could wear a helmet inside without the top of it rubbing on the ceiling.  I also think Ford thinned out the A-pillars in S550, particularly the front corner where it meets the window sill (where the mirror adjustment joystick used to be).  Setting the mirrors out a bit helped with the front quarter visibility as well.

To its credit, the Camaro's forward (straight ahead) visibility appears better from what I recall the Gen5's being.  Still not what I'd call "good", though.

[GoCougs]

That header is really low.  I sat in the new Mustang and I lowered the seat as far as it would go and it still felt like the header was really low, and the Camaro's is even lower.  And the A-pillar in the Camaro is noticeably thicker, which is typical of most GM vehicles. 

The FOV of the shot of the Mustang is larger (i.e., the camera is further from the A-pillar, which will make it look relatively narrower WRT the Camaro). The Mustang hood is also more noticeable than in the Camaro when looking forward, which is minimized by the larger FOV.

[r0tor]

Hah... Just read on C&D the "all great and conquering" 2015 Z28 has $4k of incentives on it right now because they can't get them off of dealer lots.  Plus they are already putting a $2k rebate on 2016s...

[ifcar]

In fairness, isn't the Z28 more of a showoff halo car that's only useful on a track, rather than something that people would actually want to own?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Hah... Just read on C&D the "all great and conquering" 2015 Z28 has $4k of incentives on it right now because they can't get them off of dealer lots.  Plus they are already putting a $2k rebate on 2016s...

4K in rebates, sounds interesting. So I popped over to chevrolet.com to check it out.

Right off the bat, I can see some of the problems(for me). It's 72K MSRP, LOL. It has the LS7, I wonder if GM ever fixed that motor. It weights(this is the "track" camaro) 3800 FRICKIN POUNDS. LOL.

If I wanted a LS7, a C6 Z06 with less than 15K miles on it can be had for tens of thousands less. It also weighs 500 lbs less, looks much much much(much?) much better and no doubt will benefit from such things as better aerodynamics, lower center of gravity and better weight distribution(transaxle).

It would take a die hard camaro guy, or just a rich guy with tons of money(and little taste) to plop down 70K on one of those. I'd rather have a Z51 Stingray(see all the above) than the Z28.

[GoCougs]

In fairness, isn't the Z28 more of a showoff halo car that's only useful on a track, rather than something that people would actually want to own?

At ~$75k it was never meant to "sell" and now Camaro fanboys are all giddy over the stats of the soon-to-be-announced 6th gen Z/28.

[r0tor]

At ~$75k it was never meant to "sell" and now Camaro fanboys are all giddy over the stats of the soon-to-be-announced 6th gen Z/28.

All so they won't buy those either...

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Hah... Just read on C&D the "all great and conquering" 2015 Z28 has $4k of incentives on it right now because they can't get them off of dealer lots.  Plus they are already putting a $2k rebate on 2016s...

You're acting like GM is giving 40K off the retail price! 4K is around 5%! Anyone with half a brain could negotiate that much off of a 75K car that's gonna be replaced within the next year or so!

[MexicoCityM3]

I like the look of the Mustang better but this *may* be the better driver.

[GoCougs]

POV driving 2016 Camaro V6 6MT:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ3fDxMV8Wc

V6 sounds pretty good - like an uncorked VQ actually. Interior looks very good though the totally vertical infotainment screen looks weird. Also, for whatever reason, while most automakers have ugly ass steering wheels but Chevy does not.

[12,000 RPM]

4K in rebates, sounds interesting. So I popped over to chevrolet.com to check it out.

Right off the bat, I can see some of the problems(for me). It's 72K MSRP, LOL. It has the LS7, I wonder if GM ever fixed that motor. It weights(this is the "track" camaro) 3800 FRICKIN POUNDS. LOL.

If I wanted a LS7, a C6 Z06 with less than 15K miles on it can be had for tens of thousands less. It also weighs 500 lbs less, looks much much much(much?) much better and no doubt will benefit from such things as better aerodynamics, lower center of gravity and better weight distribution(transaxle).

It would take a die hard camaro guy, or just a rich guy with tons of money(and little taste) to plop down 70K on one of those. I'd rather have a Z51 Stingray(see all the above) than the Z28.

Yea the Z28 is like a boat, in that the best way to experience one is prob to have a friend with one

My gawd the tires alone prob cost $3K to replace. At least u can rotate them lmao.

[Morris Minor]

So I saw a car in the distance, parked perpendicular, rear to the road. It first registered as "Lexus SC400." Then I got closer & for some reason it started looking a bit R34 Nissan Skyline. Then finally I realized "new Camaro." Very tasty looking.

[MX793]

So I saw a car in the distance, parked perpendicular, rear to the road. It first registered as "Lexus SC400." Then I got closer & for some reason it started looking a bit R34 Nissan Skyline. Then finally I realized "new Camaro." Very tasty looking.

Unless you saw a mule (or a 2015), the new 2016s aren't out for sale yet.  They won't hit the streets until sometime this autumn.