The Official Sixth Gen Camaro Thread!

Started by Gotta-Qik-C7, January 19, 2015, 06:37:04 PM

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I know that Sporty likes his playthings short but the 6th generation Camaro is not as big as some make it out to be. It is only 3.6" longer than the 1st generation Camaro. It is almost exactly the same length as the 2nd generation Camaro and it is shorter than the 3rd, 4th and 5th generation Camaros.

12,000 RPM

They are all too big

Like I said before the 2 series is like a foot shorter with a bigger interior and trunk. OK it doesn't look as cool but neither did the Foxbody which still did great and still had the short deck long hood proportions.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 13, 2016, 04:22:32 PM
They are all too big

Like I said before the 2 series is like a foot shorter with a bigger interior and trunk. OK it doesn't look as cool but neither did the Foxbody which still did great and still had the short deck long hood proportions.

Fox bodies were ugly and the trunk was tiny.  Smaller than the new Camaro's.  And 2.5" less combined legroom than the current car.
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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 13, 2016, 04:22:32 PM
They are all too big

Like I said before the 2 series is like a foot shorter with a bigger interior and trunk. OK it doesn't look as cool but neither did the Foxbody which still did great and still had the short deck long hood proportions.
You need to spend a month driving a '72 Caprice or a '74 Sedan De Ville so you can fully understand what "Too Big" really means!  :ohyeah:
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Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on July 13, 2016, 08:10:49 PM
You need to spend a month driving a '72 Caprice or a '74 Sedan De Ville so you can fully understand what "Too Big" really means!  :ohyeah:

Or a Cadillac hearse. Or a truck.  Cars feel like go karts in comparison.

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Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Or a Cadillac hearse. Or a truck.  Cars feel like go karts in comparison.
I rented a Silverado Crew Cad a couple months ago and Found myself checking my mirrors constantly like I was driving a Big Rig!
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Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on July 13, 2016, 08:10:49 PM
You need to spend a month driving a '72 Caprice or a '74 Sedan De Ville so you can fully understand what "Too Big" really means!  :ohyeah:

When I was in high school (junior and senior years) my dad's car was a Ford LTD (early 80's model year IIRC). It was frikkin huge. We all called it the ghetto cruiser.  :lol: It was hilariously huge and drove hilariously bad (floaty and imprecise would be yuuuuge understatements). I enjoyed driving it though because it was such a big attention grabber.

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Quote from: SJ_GTI on July 14, 2016, 06:23:34 AM
When I was in high school (junior and senior years) my dad's car was a Ford LTD (early 80's model year IIRC). It was frikkin huge. We all called it the ghetto cruiser.  :lol: It was hilariously huge and drove hilariously bad (floaty and imprecise would be yuuuuge understatements). I enjoyed driving it though because it was such a big attention grabber.

Those were still downsized quite a bit from the true big boats.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Or a Cadillac hearse. Or a truck.  Cars feel like go karts in comparison.

In all honesty, the Mack R600 I used to drive had quicker response and more precise turn-in than my '75 Eldo did.
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giant_mtb

Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 14, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
In all honesty, the Mack R600 I used to drive had quicker response and more precise turn-in than my '75 Eldo did.

That's a scary/strange thought. :lol:

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Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 14, 2016, 07:51:18 AM
Those were still downsized quite a bit from the true big boats.

Depends on which early 80s LTD it was.  The Panther based one or the much smaller Fox based one.  Even the former wasn't as big as the boats of the 70s.
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Quote from: MX793 on July 14, 2016, 09:07:46 AM
Depends on which early 80s LTD it was.  The Panther based one or the much smaller Fox based one.  Even the former wasn't as big as the boats of the 70s.

I was young, but it felt gigantic. I can't imagine it was based on the fox body (which is the Mustang IIRC), but who knows. The front end in particular seemed to go on forever.

From googling pictures I think this looks the closest to what I remember (except it was maroon). It was definitely a 2-door, FWIW.


MX793

Quote from: SJ_GTI on July 14, 2016, 09:49:33 AM
I was young, but it felt gigantic. I can't imagine it was based on the fox body (which is the Mustang IIRC), but who knows. The front end in particular seemed to go on forever.

From googling pictures I think this looks the closest to what I remember (except it was maroon). It was definitely a 2-door, FWIW.



Fox platform underpinned several cars.  The Mustang was the smallest, but it also underpinned some midsize cars like the Grenada, Continental, and LTD.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: SJ_GTI on July 14, 2016, 09:49:33 AM
I was young, but it felt gigantic. I can't imagine it was based on the fox body (which is the Mustang IIRC), but who knows. The front end in particular seemed to go on forever.

From googling pictures I think this looks the closest to what I remember (except it was maroon). It was definitely a 2-door, FWIW.



That was a pre-'79 one then.
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Quote from: SJ_GTI on July 14, 2016, 09:49:33 AM


There's one of those in pale yellow at my apartment complex that's apparently for sale. Seems to be in good condition, too.

Maybe if it were an Eldorado...

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: SJ_GTI on July 14, 2016, 09:49:33 AM
I was young, but it felt gigantic. I can't imagine it was based on the fox body (which is the Mustang IIRC), but who knows. The front end in particular seemed to go on forever.

From googling pictures I think this looks the closest to what I remember (except it was maroon). It was definitely a 2-door, FWIW.


LOL At Curb Feelers on the drivers side....
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July sales numbers: 5,520 Camaros.  Up about 10% from last month, down 26% from last July.  GM introduced 0% financing on Camaro for the entire month of July.

Camaro was again behind the Challenger for monthly sales.  Mustang and Challenger were both up (13% and 7%, respectively) versus July of last year.
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Wow.  I want a GM fire sale.  Give me a V8 Camaro with a $10k discount :lol:
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SJ_GTI

Quote from: MX793 on August 02, 2016, 10:39:54 AM
July sales numbers: 5,520 Camaros.  Up about 10% from last month, down 26% from last July.  GM introduced 0% financing on Camaro for the entire month of July.

Camaro was again behind the Challenger for monthly sales.  Mustang and Challenger were both up (13% and 7%, respectively) versus July of last year.

It was 0% on the 2016's I assume? I think that is pretty standard model year end type incentives.

MX793

Quote from: SJ_GTI on August 02, 2016, 12:11:26 PM
It was 0% on the 2016's I assume? I think that is pretty standard model year end type incentives.

I believe so.  Not sure 2017s are out yet.
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Quote from: MrH on August 02, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
Wow.  I want a GM fire sale.  Give me a V8 Camaro with a $10k discount :lol:

Unfortunately that's still the same price as a comparable Mustang
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MX793

If you can deal with the visibility and small trunk, the Camaro is enticing for the same money as a similarly spec'ed Mustang.  15-20% more is just too much of a stretch, especially with these cars clearing 40K when optioned up.
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:cry:  Maybe it'll pop up as a crazy deal on Leasehackr one day.
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68_427

Fire sale on 1LE, which does the MT figure 8 in the same time as the gt350r and new m4 CSL type thing
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Oh, I didn't realize the 1LE package was available for the new one.  I guess it's been announced and it's coming?

Also, Krypton green is coming as a color option :praise:
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Quote from: MrH on August 02, 2016, 12:43:57 PM
Oh, I didn't realize the 1LE package was available for the new one.  I guess it's been announced and it's coming?

Also, Krypton green is coming as a color option :praise:

Coming later this year for V6 and V8 models.  They tested the V8 for Best driver's car.  That will be a good read.
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Loaded up V8, 1LE is going to be $50k+.  That's rough.
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Quote from: MrH on August 08, 2016, 02:23:13 PM
Loaded up V8, 1LE is going to be $50k+.  That's rough.

$6500 option on the SS.  Cheapest you can get a V8 1LE is over $43K.  Ouch.  And $4500 on the V6 model.  That's over $32K to start.  That's within a few hundred of what I paid for my GT w/ Performance Pack.
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The 1LE can be had on a 1SS making it $43k, which will be 98% the performer and driver that the GT350 is but for $7k less.

The ZL1 is starts at only $62k (and mark my words, I'll bet it's as good or better performer/driver vs. the Z06, making the ZL1 the best performance bargain on the planet).