The Official Sixth Gen Camaro Thread!

Started by Gotta-Qik-C7, January 19, 2015, 06:37:04 PM

68_427

Yeah if the hints that a couple MT guys were giving the 1LE is even more impressive than the last one.
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Quote from: 68_427 on August 08, 2016, 04:06:54 PM
Yeah if the hints that a couple MT guys were giving the 1LE is even more impressive than the last one.

While it will lack the "specialness" of the GT350, I fully expect it to deliver on performance and at a healthy discount.  At least in V8 guise.  The V6, much like the rest of the lesser Camaro line, is too rich for the blood of the typical buyer.  A Mustang GT/PP with X-plan pricing (which anybody can get by joining MCoA) starts at $34-34.5K.  A 1LT 1LE Camaro starts at $33.3K.  Not hard justifying the extra ~1000 to get a V8.
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68_427

Yeah the V6 1LE should come with a 3.73 rear end just like the V8.  That would pair really really well with the 7500rpm v6.
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Quote from: 68_427 on August 08, 2016, 09:59:14 PM
Yeah the V6 1LE should come with a 3.73 rear end just like the V8.  That would pair really really well with the 7500rpm v6.

Depends on what the gearbox ratios are on the V6 vs the SS.  My V6 Mustang with 3.31 gears had overall gearing somewhere between a 3.55 and 3.73 in a GT.  3.73 would have been way too short.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 09, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
Damn

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/08/told-chevrolet-camaro-sales-plunging-now-gm-cut-camaro-prices-10/#more-1392834

Damn, if that is true I wonder if I should be shopping for a Camaro. The sale looks like its only on 2016's, but there seem to be a lot in stock. I don't see anything like this listed on Chevy's website though. There is a 16% cashback sale on "tagged" 2016 models, but the Camaro and Corvette are not included.

MrH

Read the fine print and comments.

GM was just doing 20% off most of their models a month or so ago.  10% off on a small selection of their remaining 2016s is not that good of a deal.
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SJ_GTI

Quote from: MrH on August 09, 2016, 11:15:11 AM
Read the fine print and comments.

GM was just doing 20% off most of their models a month or so ago.  10% off on a small selection of their remaining 2016s is not that good of a deal.

The 20% never applied to the Camaro and Corvette though.

The 10% off a Camaro would be news, but I am not sure I believe it is true. The best "special" I can find from googling 2016 Camaro's is an offer of 2.9% APR for 60 months.

MrH

It applied to the SS before the seatbelt issue popped up.

The fine print says it only applies to 18% of the leftover 2016 stock.

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SJ_GTI

Quote from: MrH on August 09, 2016, 11:25:24 AM
It applied to the SS before the seatbelt issue popped up.

The fine print says it only applies to 18% of the leftover 2016 stock.

Yes, I know the SS was included, I was trying to buy one.  :lol:

My comments above are about the Camaro and Corvette and those cars were never included in the 20% off deal, so again even if it only applies to left over stock it would still be a good deal if you found one.

Not amazing mind you, but pretty good, especially if the dealer is willing to haggle on top of the cash back offer.

MrH

Meh.  Call me when they offer 20% off the Camaro + haggling :lol:  I want a $45k 2SS Camaro for <$35k.  That'd get my interest.
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Quote from: MrH on August 09, 2016, 11:15:11 AM
Read the fine print and comments.

GM was just doing 20% off most of their models a month or so ago.  10% off on a small selection of their remaining 2016s is not that good of a deal.

True; 10% though should be able to be had without any sort of official discount program, esp. on a car that I have to imagine sits around quite a while before it's sold.

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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 22, 2016, 08:35:09 AM
Should not be hard to get a good deal on Camaros...... not looking good at all brehs

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/08/chevrolet-camaro-sales-plunging-camaro-inventory-ballooned-129-day-supply/

looking good for anyone who happens to look to buy a used one a few years down the line...

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68_427

Camaro 1LE laps Laguna in the same time as the M4 GTS, and sounds soooo much better doing it.

GT350-R is 1.5 seconds ahead of both.
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Oh man I can't wait for the Z/28. GT350R is going to get murdered.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 06, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
:(

GT350R is a good carrrr. Doesn't deserve such treatment

I've been kind of disappointed in them IRL. They sound amazing at WOT but at anything less it's just a regular Mustang noise. Maybe they just need an aftermarket exhaust.
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MX793

Quote from: 68_427 on September 06, 2016, 12:34:16 AM
Camaro 1LE laps Laguna in the same time as the M4 GTS, and sounds soooo much better doing it.

GT350-R is 1.5 seconds ahead of both.

How fast is the standard SS?
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 06, 2016, 04:16:15 PM
I've been kind of disappointed in them IRL. They sound amazing at WOT but at anything less it's just a regular Mustang noise. Maybe they just need an aftermarket exhaust.
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68_427

#982
Quote from: MX793 on September 06, 2016, 04:56:01 PM
How fast is the standard SS?

Not quite sure.  This info is coming from the 2016 Best Driver's Car by MT and they just gave that info out in the Ignition episode of the M4 GTS.

And they said "about as fast" as a 1LE so I guess that means a couple tenths probably in either direction.  (The M4 ran a 1:37.66)


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I'd assume "about as fast" means a tenth slower.

(which for any real world purposes is a tie)
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MX793

Quote from: 68_427 on September 06, 2016, 09:43:41 PM
Not quite sure.  This info is coming from the 2016 Best Driver's Car by MT and they just gave that info out in the Ignition episode of the M4 GTS.

And they said "about as fast" as a 1LE so I guess that means a couple tenths probably in either direction.  (The M4 ran a 1:37.66)


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So $6.5k extra for the 1LE package and it's not materially faster than the regular SS?
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68_427

#985
What did the regular SS run?  For another comparison the Z/28 ran 1:37.82 at Best Driver's Car 2014, also driven by Randy Pobst.
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Quote from: 68_427 on September 07, 2016, 04:40:39 AM
What did the regular SS run?

I don't know.  Was your "about as fast as a 1LE" not referring to the 1LE vs SS?
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68_427

Quote from: MX793 on September 07, 2016, 04:43:02 AM
I don't know.  Was your "about as fast as a 1LE" not referring to the 1LE vs SS?

It was referring to the M4 GTS
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68_427

More reference is the 2017 GT-R ran 1:37.1 and the new NSX on optional R-Comps ran a 1:36.36.
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Quote from: 68_427 on September 07, 2016, 09:37:45 PM
More reference is the 2017 GT-R ran 1:37.1 and the new NSX on optional R-Comps ran a 1:36.36.

Is the NSX time out somewhere?  I don't recall that.