The Official Sixth Gen Camaro Thread!

[Cookie Monster]

Every time I'd park the Ferrari I'd be terrified of some numbnut dinging the door.

Or some asshole sitting on the car to take a picture of it, or some other asshole keying it, etc.

[MrH]

I want to test drive one of these new camaros just to see what the hype is about.

455 hp means long gears most likely.  It tops first at 54 mph, 80 mph for 2nd.  It's really only two fun gears then.  Ultimately, I think a miata will always be more fun for me.

[CaminoRacer]

Swapping in 3.73s is simple.

Best gearing is to have 2nd top out at 70-72 mph.

[12,000 RPM]

Shorter FD will make 1st pointless, putting him back to square one

[Cookie Monster]

I want to test drive one of these new camaros just to see what the hype is about.

455 hp means long gears most likely.  It tops first at 54 mph, 80 mph for 2nd.  It's really only two fun gears then.  Ultimately, I think a miata will always be more fun for me.

It is nice to be able to wind out 3rd and some of 4th in the Miata (even the top of 3rd is in the 80's though) but being able to do 120 mph in 2nd is a different kind of fun.

[MX793]

I want to test drive one of these new camaros just to see what the hype is about.

455 hp means long gears most likely.  It tops first at 54 mph, 80 mph for 2nd.  It's really only two fun gears then.  Ultimately, I think a miata will always be more fun for me.

Camaro is taller than Mustang, but my Mustang with 435 hp is geared such that it taps out at 62 mph in 2nd.  Totally manageable, though I wish it was a little taller so I wouldn't run out of gear on some faster auto-x courses.

[CaminoRacer]

Shorter FD will make 1st pointless, putting him back to square one

Apparently SS manual Camaros have 3.73's stock. But, you can swap in 4.11's and top out at 49 and 73. That's just about perfect.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I want to test drive one of these new camaros just to see what the hype is about.

455 hp means long gears most likely.  It tops first at 54 mph, 80 mph for 2nd.  It's really only two fun gears then.  Ultimately, I think a miata will always be more fun for me.

[68_427]

Guys relax he's getting a SS M6 sometime anyways.

[MrH]

Guys relax he's getting a SS M6 sometime anyways.

[AutobahnSHO]

You probably can't enjoy the power, since it weighs as much as an SUV and has the sightlines of an M1 Abrams, but it's not unstreetable.  Driving that thing at 100mph on a highway probably feels like sitting on a sofa in your living room, but you can only see a small part of the TV.  On the plus side, you'll probably die when the ignition switch fails or the car locks you in the cabin on a hot day.

[AutobahnSHO]

Ultimately, I think a miata will always be more fun for me.

+1
How often could you put your right foot on the floor of a Camaro? Without worrying about cops?

HP is sweet and fun and AWESOME but just can't make the most of it DDing.

[GoCougs]

Video of the 2017 ZL1 at the 'Ring is up: 7:29, which is quick, but not as quick as I expected; decent company at about that time - M4 GTS, GTR, Huracan, F458. In total it's groundbreaking however considering the ZL1 has a base MSRP of $62k...

Note that this is the 10 sp AT, and the driver never once uses the paddles. Also note the RPM drop between gears (or at least the gears at these speeds) is only ~1,000 RPM. Faster with the 6MT? My hunch is yes, it would be. This AT seems good but it can't predict the course (i.e., downshifting only with brake application or less throttle isn't as effective).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrFnrcpBj5k

[12,000 RPM]

I wish the telematics had a gear indicator. Thing's fast for sure but something about doing the ring in full auto mode just seems wrong

[Eye of the Tiger]

I wish the telematics had a gear indicator. Thing's fast for sure but something about doing the ring in full auto mode just seems wrong

It seems wrong, but whatever mode it was in seemed pretty good for track use. Holding gears, engine braking, etc. Maybe it has ... track mode?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Video of the 2017 ZL1 at the 'Ring is up: 7:29, which is quick, but not as quick as I expected; decent company at about that time - M4 GTS, GTR, Huracan, F458. In total it's groundbreaking however considering the ZL1 has a base MSRP of $62k...

Note that this is the 10 sp AT, and the driver never once uses the paddles. Also note the RPM drop between gears (or at least the gears at these speeds) is only ~1,000 RPM. Faster with the 6MT? My hunch is yes, it would be. This AT seems good but it can't predict the course (i.e., downshifting only with brake application or less throttle isn't as effective).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrFnrcpBj5k

Not a bad time, how does it compare to the C7 Z06 times?

[MX793]

If it's like the 8AT in the Vette, it'll be faster in D than in manual mode.

[GoCougs]

Stock 2017 ZL1 6MT vs. stock 2017 Z06 7MT: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D25GwFG1dzk

Hennessy races them from a roll up to ~130 mph. Many races, and they're basically tied, with maybe a wee bit of an advantage for the Z06 (less than a car length) right at the end.

I've been saying it for some time - I would not be surprised of the ZL1 is the better performance car. Sure, it's heavier and much bigger, so it won't probably have the raw track numbers, but the chassis looks to be better suited for all that RWD power, and I think it will be a better drive and more controllable (= more confidence inspiring).

[12,000 RPM]

Very curious to see what it does around a track. I'm sure MT is filming as we speak

[GoCougs]

(Glowing) C&D review of the new ZL1:  http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-first-drive-review

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

DOPE!

[GoCougs]

In M/T's hands ZL1 10sp AT beats McLaren 570S around Willows. Not as fast as the Z06/Z07 but after abuse at the track for days it didn't overheat or get heat soak, and they intimate it's far easier to handle. They do say the 1LE is sharper and more tossable though:  http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/camaro/2017/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-first-test-brute-squad-goals/

[12,000 RPM]

ZL1's kind of scary

[Xer0]

I really want the V6 1LE.  More than enough power for me and still stupid capable.  But damn, if the ZL1 is this amazing (and doesn't overheat!), I wonder what a Z/28 will look like.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I really want the V6 1LE.  More than enough power for me and still stupid capable.  But damn, if the ZL1 is this amazing (and doesn't overheat!), I wonder what a Z/28 will look like.

11 Heat exchangers keep it cool! It didn't over heat at all.

[MrH]

I really want the V6 1LE.  More than enough power for me and still stupid capable.  But damn, if the ZL1 is this amazing (and doesn't overheat!), I wonder what a Z/28 will look like.

I still can't get my mind to accept a V6 1LE when a V8 1LE is also available

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I still can't get my mind to accept a V6 1LE when a V8 1LE is also available

MAN LAW! 

[Xer0]

I still can't get my mind to accept a V6 1LE when a V8 1LE is also available

10k less helps 

[12,000 RPM]

I prefer the sound of a 6 cylinder

[Eye of the Tiger]

I prefer the sound of a 6 cylinder