Haterade for everyone!!

[AutobahnSHO]

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-toyota-tundra-platinum-4x4-crewmax-page-2

Even if your fave came out on top, hate away!! 

[Payman]

I like the rear power window on the Yota. Every truck should have this standard.

[SVT666]

I like the rear power window on the Yota. Every truck should have this standard.

I agree. 

I would take the Ram out of this bunch.

[AutobahnSHO]

I agree. 

I would take the Ram out of this bunch.

small bed???    I'd choose ford or Yota just for decent truck engineering or expected longevity, although the chevy would make more sense than a Yota.

[SVT666]

small bed???

It doesn't have to be that configuration. 

[hotrodalex]

small bed???    I'd choose ford or Yota just for decent truck engineering or expected longevity, although the chevy would make more sense than a Yota.

I wouldn't choose the EcoBoost Ford for longevity...

Surprising that the F-150 was a tenth quicker to 60, must have shorter gearing or something. (which would also explain the poor MPG)

[AutobahnSHO]

I wouldn't choose the EcoBoost Ford for longevity...

Surprising that the F-150 was a tenth quicker to 60, must have shorter gearing or something. (which would also explain the poor MPG)

I meant Yota for longevity, Ford for decent truck (minus complicated engine + body)

[GoCougs]

Kinda sad really. Summer 2005 the Tundra hilariously crushed the F150, Silverado and Ram. Almost 10 years later? It's pretty much unchanged whilst the others have had 1-2 generation changes.

As to accel runs, note 0-30 and 0-60 the F-150 has a tenth or so advantage. Thereafter the Silverado walks it esp. in passing. This points to a traction issue with the Silverado. Also note identical 16 mpg as tested, and the Silverado needs only 87 octane (and the F-150, premium). EcoBoost = EcoWhybother.

[hotrodalex]

Is there a 5-60 number? That'd be a good clue as to traction vs. gearing.

[GoCougs]

5-60 is the same at 6.2 sec each. Silverado has lower gearing - 10-20% lower depending on gear.

[AutobahnSHO]

Kinda sad really. Summer 2005 the Tundra hilariously crushed the F150, Silverado and Ram. Almost 10 years later? It's pretty much unchanged whilst the others have had 1-2 generation changes.

As to accel runs, note 0-30 and 0-60 the F-150 has a tenth or so advantage. Thereafter the Silverado walks it esp. in passing. This points to a traction issue with the Silverado. Also note identical 16 mpg as tested, and the Silverado needs only 87 octane (and the F-150, premium). EcoBoost = EcoWhybother.

didn't they say they ran regular in the BOOST?

[SVT666]

Kinda sad really. Summer 2005 the Tundra hilariously crushed the F150, Silverado and Ram. Almost 10 years later? It's pretty much unchanged whilst the others have had 1-2 generation changes.

As to accel runs, note 0-30 and 0-60 the F-150 has a tenth or so advantage. Thereafter the Silverado walks it esp. in passing. This points to a traction issue with the Silverado. Also note identical 16 mpg as tested, and the Silverado needs only 87 octane (and the F-150, premium). EcoBoost = EcoWhybother.

EcoBoost takes regular.

[GoCougs]

Spec summary page says "91 octane" for the F150. Either way distinction without a difference.

[SVT666]

Spec summary page says "91 octane" for the F150. Either way distinction without a difference.

91 is recommended, but 87 is just fine.

[FoMoJo]

Seems like some of the manufacturers overstated to load and tow numbers...

PAYLOAD            
MAX                   2050 pounds   2020 pounds   1550 pounds   1575 pounds
AS TESTED   1740 pounds   2020 pounds   1530 pounds   1305 pounds
TOWING            
MAX                 11,800 pounds   11,500 pounds   10,160 pounds   9800 pounds
AS TESTED   9200 pounds   11,500 pounds   8000 pounds   9500 pounds

[r0tor]

Kinda sad really. Summer 2005 the Tundra hilariously crushed the F150, Silverado and Ram. Almost 10 years later? It's pretty much unchanged whilst the others have had 1-2 generation changes.

As to accel runs, note 0-30 and 0-60 the F-150 has a tenth or so advantage. Thereafter the Silverado walks it esp. in passing. This points to a traction issue with the Silverado. Also note identical 16 mpg as tested, and the Silverado needs only 87 octane (and the F-150, premium). EcoBoost = EcoWhybother.

No, that's the low end ecoboost torque kicking Chevy's ass... Chevy catches up on horsepower

[MrH]

No, that's the low end ecoboost torque kicking Chevy's ass... Chevy catches up on horsepower

....wut

[r0tor]

....wut

Really?

[MrH]

Really?

Is that in reference to your own post? Because it should be

[hotrodalex]

Ecoboost torque hits 500 rpm sooner but isn't as flat and ends 500 rpm sooner as well. It's a wash.

[Soup DeVille]

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-toyota-tundra-platinum-4x4-crewmax-page-2

Even if your fave came out on top, hate away!! 

Roger: and will do!

These are all stupid; not that they aren't capable or well made: but that the cheapest of them is $50,000. That's just seriously big money for a pick up truck. And look at all the dudes arguing over 0-60 times: all of which are faster than any truck ever needs to be. These aren't even some limited edition performance trucks either; just normal production with more option boxes checked off than average.

[Soup DeVille]

Seems like some of the manufacturers overstated to load and tow numbers...

I don't think they actually tested those: what those are are the maximum listed payloads for that model- and the payload of the actual truck as tested (options that add weight are often deducted from the max payload rating).

[CALL_911]

Roger: and will do!

These are all stupid; not that they aren't capable or well made: but that the cheapest of them is $50,000. That's just seriously big money for a pick up truck. And look at all the dudes arguing over 0-60 times: all of which are faster than any truck ever needs to be. These aren't even some limited edition performance trucks either; just normal production with more option boxes checked off than average.

Fine, but the fact is these things sell.

But you do have a point

[GoCougs]

No, that's the low end ecoboost torque kicking Chevy's ass... Chevy catches up on horsepower

Oh, for the love of sweet baby Jesus cooing softly in His manager, don't do this.

Plus, identical 5-60 times tells you it's a launch/traction issue.

[Soup DeVille]

Fine, but the fact is these things sell.

But you do have a point

The wonders of seven year financing...

[Rupert]

Roger: and will do!

These are all stupid; not that they aren't capable or well made: but that the cheapest of them is $50,000. That's just seriously big money for a pick up truck. And look at all the dudes arguing over 0-60 times: all of which are faster than any truck ever needs to be. These aren't even some limited edition performance trucks either; just normal production with more option boxes checked off than average.

I don't so much mind the idea of a luxury truck as I mind that so many people think they need a truck at all and equivocate their truck to their dick size.

[Soup DeVille]

I don't so much mind the idea of a luxury truck as I mind that so many people think they need a truck at all and equivocate their truck to their dick size.

I'm not in the habit of inspecting random stranger's dicks, so I'll stay out of that one.

[Rupert]

It's all the rage these days.

"Hey bro, lemme see your dick", is basically "what's up" for the 2010s.

[Soup DeVille]

It's all the rage these days.

"Hey bro, lemme see your dick", is basically "what's up" for the 2010s.

It's scary how plausible that actually is.

Sometimes, I'm glad I'm an old fart.

[Rupert]

Nah, guys are way too insecure about their dicks for that to happen, especially young guys.