Toyota Tacoma

[MrH]

This is why Lebowski is rich and we're not

[BimmerM3]

This is why Lebowski is rich and we're not

Protege 5
Miata
F150? I forget which truck you bought from your dad.
BR-Z
Genesis
4Runner
S2000

Somehow I don't think the rims are the problem.

[Cookie Monster]

Protege 5
Miata
F150? I forget which truck you bought from your dad.
BR-Z
Genesis
4Runner
S2000

Somehow I don't think the rims are the problem.

It says in his sig... it's a Tacoma and you forgot the LOLement.

[BimmerM3]

It says in his sig... it's a Tacoma and you forgot the LOLement.

Doh!

My point still stands though...

[MrH]

It says in his sig... it's a Tacoma and you forgot the LOLement.

I made money on some of those, and that's over 12 years, mind you. But I get your point

[68_427]

We're like the blondes of the car world.  Having more fun

[Cookie Monster]

I can't believe I've owned 6 vehicles in the last 5 years. Hopefully #7 will occur some time this year.

[68_427]

And it'll be the same as #4 

[BimmerM3]

I can't believe I've owned 6 vehicles in the last 5 years. Hopefully #7 will occur some time this year.

Meanwhile I've owned 4 in the 12 years I've been driving. And the E21 barely counts.

[Lebowski]

I'm just not that into wheels. Aftermarket wheels never look good imo, occasionally different oem wheels look better as in the case of the 4Runner but I don't care enough to change them for a vehicle I've had for 6 years now and this will probably only have for another 2 years or so.

[MrH]

I'm just not that into wheels. Aftermarket wheels never look good imo, occasionally different oem wheels look better as in the case of the 4Runner but I don't care enough to change them for a vehicle I've had for 6 years now and this will probably only have for another 2 years or so.

What comes after the 4Runner?

[CaminoRacer]

What comes after the 4Runner?

Brabus 6x6

[MrH]

Brabus 6x6

[Lebowski]

What comes after the 4Runner?

I'm really not planning its replacement at this point, and my girlfriend drives it now so if that continues it'll be mostly up to her. It will have to be another SUV. Maybe a 6th gen 4Runner depending when that comes out and if TM doesn't fuck it up. I like the X5 as well. But one of the things I like about the 4Runner is it isn't so nice that I stress about it, don't worry about dog hair or scratches etc so I'd be tempted to just get another 4Runner.

[MrH]

I'm really not planning its replacement at this point, and my girlfriend drives it now so if that continues it'll be mostly up to her. It will have to be another SUV. Maybe a 6th gen 4Runner depending when that comes out and if TM doesn't fuck it up. I like the X5 as well. But one of the things I like about the 4Runner is it isn't so nice that I stress about it, don't worry about dog hair or scratches etc so I'd be tempted to just get another 4Runner.

Been a few months since I looked, but last info IHS was putting out was that the new 4Runner was going to be a model year 2018 and showed a 4.0 liter V6 still

[Lebowski]

Been a few months since I looked, but last info IHS was putting out was that the new 4Runner was going to be a model year 2018 and showed a 4.0 liter V6 still

A V8 option would be nice but I don't find the underpowered v6 as much of an issue as everyone makes of it. The thing is a grocery getter / dog hauler, it's got plenty of pickup to merge or pass on the highway I just have never considered it a huge issue.

[MrH]

Sorry, start of production is showing second quarter of 2018.  Probably would show as a 2019 model year.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with the V6.  It's not fast, but fast enough to get around town and pass on the highway.

[Lebowski]

So that would be a model year '19? 

That would be a long time to go ... We'll see.  That would put my current 4Runner at 9years old at time of replacement.

[BimmerM3]

I'm just not that into wheels. Aftermarket wheels never look good imo, occasionally different oem wheels look better as in the case of the 4Runner but I don't care enough to change them for a vehicle I've had for 6 years now and this will probably only have for another 2 years or so.

+1. I want to get a second set for the Explorer just so I can keep snow tires on one and some all terrains on the other, so I'm not sure if I'll buy some aftermarkets or try to find some stock wheels to buy. Plus my current wheel size doesn't have very good options for all terrains - it came with some cheapo soccer mom all seasons and I left those on until I got snow tires for the winter last year.

A V8 option would be nice but I don't find the underpowered v6 as much of an issue as everyone makes of it. The thing is a grocery getter / dog hauler, it's got plenty of pickup to merge or pass on the highway I just have never considered it a huge issue.

I even thought that the 235 hp V6 from 2003-2004 was adequate when I test drove it.  I don't know if the newer generation is much heavier, but it should be fine with the 270hp version.

I went with the V8 on the Explorer, but the V6 was only 200 hp plus had a 5-speed instead of the 6-speed that came with the V8. I'm really glad I made that choice - the V8 still has to work kind of hard at highway speeds on some of the steeper mountain roads in CO.

[Rupert]

You guys should drive the four cylinder Tacoma I have at work on some mountain roads.

[BimmerM3]

You guys should drive the four cylinder Tacoma I have at work on some mountain roads.

At lower speeds, I think the V6 Explorer would have been fine. But making quick merges and dealing with steeper mountain highways, while the V6 would have gotten the job done, the V8 is definitely nice to have. It was certainly a bit of a bump in purchase price, but it's only a slight difference in fuel economy and add far as I know there's not a significant difference as far as reliability goes, so it was mostly an up front cost for me.

All that said, I kinda wish I had held out for an Xterra. I actually really liked the engine in those vehicles. The Explorer is definitely much fancier than an Xterra would have been though.

[Rupert]

Xterra is plastic fantastic, but it's fast for what it is.

I can make the Taco do what I want, you just have to keep it in the right gear and not be afraid of high RPMs. It's got the four speed, too, and that doesn't help.

[giant_mtb]

V6 Explorers are eternally gutless for anything but putsing.  Tacoma V6 isn't Strong, but it'll at least get up and move when and where I want it to.  I mean, I barely ever rev the thing over 3k in everyday driving, so it'll surprise me when I go for a quick pass and am on the gas hard.

[Rupert]

V6 Explorers are lightspeed compared to 4 cylinder Tacoma, even 17 year old V6 Explorers.

[MrH]

Hey that Tacoma I had for a short bit was a 4 cylinder manual. So slow but kind of fun too

[Rupert]

You have to pay attention and interact with it to make it move, I like that.

[AutobahnSHO]

I park next to some Tundras at work.

Holy frak those are tall. And I'm in my full-size minivan and notice it.!!

[giant_mtb]

I park next to some Tundras at work.

Holy frak those are tall. And I'm in my full-size minivan and notice it.!!

For real. My Tacoma is as big as Tundras a generation or two prior. Crazy how big vehicles have gotten, yet they all still fit in the same lanes and parking spots.  For now.

[AutobahnSHO]

I think the top of the hood is at like 5ft off the ground

[BimmerM3]

V6 Explorers are eternally gutless for anything but putsing.  Tacoma V6 isn't Strong, but it'll at least get up and move when and where I want it to.  I mean, I barely ever rev the thing over 3k in everyday driving, so it'll surprise me when I go for a quick pass and am on the gas hard.

I can't compare to the older V6 Explorer that Rupert had, but the V6 equivalent of my Explorer was downright lethargic. I really tried to find it acceptable, but it wasn't. The V6 4Runner wasn't brilliant, but I would have been perfectly happy with it.