FFffffffffffffffff...Ferrari 488 GTB road test embargo is over!!!!!

[12,000 RPM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvMRTQ6-X0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuJaUcpHWzg

670HP!!!!!!!!!!!

[r0tor]

From Chris Harris's video it appears to be halaciously fast, great sounding, and easy but engaging to drive... So perhaps even better than the 458


For some reason though the Ferrari brand seems to be lacking for me... Its probably a car that I would want the drive more then anything if given a chance, but even if I had the money I could never see myself as a Ferrari owner.  I guess our local cars & coffee has tainted it for me.

[GoCougs]

Ha, ha - noticeably less responsive up and down shifts    (just watch an in-car F458 vid, or even a 991 GT3). Harris wants to say more but he dances around it but not surprising given his relationship with Ferrari. Fer real shame. Ferrari was turning out the best N/A motors in the world. Doesn't sound as good as the F458 either.

[12,000 RPM]

Ha, ha - noticeably less responsive up and down shifts    (just watch an in-car F458 vid, or even a 991 GT3). Harris wants to say more but he dances around it but not surprising given his relationship with Ferrari. Fer real shame. Ferrari was turning out the best N/A motors in the world. Doesn't sound as good as the F458 either.

Lel u w0t m8. Chris Harris relationship with Ferrari has been tumultuous at best. And wat lag are u seeing. Can u point to timestamps in the video that demonstrate wat ur talking about?

And this thing sounds exactly like the F430 and 458 I actually drove... just slightly lower revving since those went to 9 and this goes to 8

Dont do it bro ur jihad will get Seal Team 6'd on this one.

[GoCougs]

My premise, as all my premises, is indefeatible, so the challenge is accepted and luckily for 'SPIN bytes, already won: by the very nature of how a turbo charged engine works it will not be as responsive as its N/A counterpart.

My point is Chris Harris agrees with me but since Ferrari doesn't care much for him, and he has to go lightly on the criticism of their new darling on their turf on their invite, if he wants to keep getting invited back.

See the Evo vid at about the 1 minute mark and then find F458 and GT3 in-car vids. It's noticeable, and it's a real shame.

[12,000 RPM]

So in other words u have nothing . Another Cougspiracy theory. Obviously a turbocharged engine will not have the same response as an N/A engine; they make up for that with more shove and efficiency though. Unless u can quantify how much lag this motor has over the old one, Im gonna write off your eulogies and go with the word of the guy who called out Ferrari on their BS, bought one with his own $$$, and literally drives them and their competitors for a living.

Bonus there is no EVO vid of the 488 GTB... didnt see anything strange at the 1m mark; in the first vid they are just getting into the car, 2nd vid they have a diagram of the car and dont even have in car footage. But I will gladly go deeper down the Cougspiracy fanfic rabbit hole.

[GoCougs]

So in other words you agree with me - not as responsive.

So what in the hell is it you're doing then?

[giant_mtb]

omg .

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Lul wtf

Edit: lol accidentally typed lul, I meant .

[MX793]

Lul wtf

Edit: lol accidentally typed lul, I meant .

lal

[giant_mtb]

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[MX793]

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[giant_mtb]

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[Cookie Monster]

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[Raza]

What's the point of this thread? 

[giant_mtb]

Sporty winning at the internet. Lel. Bonus Lel.

[68_427]

Come into this thread liek....

[Secret Chimp]

Dopp[]kupplung

[12,000 RPM]

Real talk doe I wanna talk about the Ferrari.

[68_427]

Real talk doe I wanna talk about the Ferrari.

It's ugly on lame. 

[Raza]

Real talk doe I wanna talk about the Ferrari.

Another massively expensive, massively capable, ugly car that will never be driven much above highway speeds by the people who can afford to reach their arthritic hands into their deep arthritic wallets and actually pay for it. 

Ferraris have lost my interest to be honest.  If I hit the Powerball tomorrow, there isn't a current Ferrari that I would put on my list, which I think is an indictment from the hypothetically nouveau riche car enthusiast.   

[Rich]

Another massively expensive, massively capable, ugly car that will never be driven much above highway speeds by the people who can afford to reach their arthritic hands into their deep arthritic wallets and actually pay for it. 

Ferraris have lost my interest to be honest.  If I hit the Powerball tomorrow, there isn't a current Ferrari that I would put on my list, which I think is an indictment from the hypothetically nouveau riche car enthusiast.   

What would you get?

I think his car is great but I'm never going to own one so it has my interest as much as a 7 passenger SUV

[Submariner]

Another massively expensive, massively capable, ugly car that will never be driven much above highway speeds by the people who can afford to reach their arthritic hands into their deep arthritic wallets and actually pay for it. 

Ferraris have lost my interest to be honest.  If I hit the Powerball tomorrow, there isn't a current Ferrari that I would put on my list, which I think is an indictment from the hypothetically nouveau riche car enthusiast.   

If you hit the powerball tomorrow, can you buy me one?

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Another massively expensive, massively capable, ugly car that will never be driven much above highway speeds by the people who can afford to reach their arthritic hands into their deep arthritic wallets and actually pay for it.

U know aside from the "massively expensive" part much of the same could be said about your car

Why do you hold the people who buy a car as a demerit against the car itself? Are u a member of the "Z4 club"? Do u really put that much stock in what a car says about its owner? Pls tell me u arent that materialistic/insecure

Ferraris have lost my interest to be honest.  If I hit the Powerball tomorrow, there isn't a current Ferrari that I would put on my list, which I think is an indictment from the hypothetically nouveau riche car enthusiast.

Lel, let me guess, their cars used to be so much better in the past and were only bought and driven by heroes of purism.



The same exact kind of people buying Ferraris today are the same kind of people who were buying them in the past. Driving a stickshift car is hardly a Herculean feat or some mind blowing skill. My mom drove stickshift for years and she is not a great driver by any means.

Wat is the real problem here. Because it doesnt seem like its with Ferrari. This gripe u have is downright Chartardesque.

[CALL_911]

I'm a huge fan. Would totally buy this (particularly its Speciale equivalent) if I had the means.

[SVT666]

Not a fan of this car just based on styling alone.  I wish Ferrari would build an F355 equivalent.  If Ferrari built a small displacement V8 pushing 400 hp, a 6 speed manual, 2800 lbs, and sexy styling, I would be all over that shit.  Of course, I wouldn't be able to afford it still so it really wouldn't matter if they built it or not.

[Raza]

What would you get?

I think his car is great but I'm never going to own one so it has my interest as much as a 7 passenger SUV

Aston V8 Vantage Roadster is the number one on my list, and has been for a long time. Accessible performance, jaw dropping good looks, six speed stick. Jag F-Type is on the list too, especially if it does come out with a stick.

[Raza]

U know aside from the "massively expensive" part much of the same could be said about your car

Why do you hold the people who buy a car as a demerit against the car itself? Are u a member of the "Z4 club"? Do u really put that much stock in what a car says about its owner? Pls tell me u arent that materialistic/insecure

One, you don't need to be a race driver to be able to exploit my car fully. With some training and some track time and dedication (similar to what I've gone through), you can reach the limits of my Z4. And you can still have some nearly legal fun in it without hitting the limits. Two, what a car says about the owner does matter. And I'm not talking about that aspirational bullshit, like buying a Jeep makes me an adventurer or something, when in reality your biggest adventure is likely dropping the kids off at school, but branding and image matter--which is why there is an area of law dedicated to protecting image. It's the same reason I like the BRZ, but would never own an FR-S. On the rare occasion I do wear a hat, I wear it facing forward (but really, I don't wear hats), so the Scion isn't for me.

Lel, let me guess, their cars used to be so much better in the past and were only bought and driven by heroes of purism.



The same exact kind of people buying Ferraris today are the same kind of people who were buying them in the past. Driving a stickshift car is hardly a Herculean feat or some mind blowing skill. My mom drove stickshift for years and she is not a great driver by any means.

Wat is the real problem here. Because it doesnt seem like its with Ferrari. This gripe u have is downright Chartardesque.

It's a combination of the cars being really easy to drive and really difficult to drive at the limit. Older Ferraris were purer; there was a time that Ferrari looked at the 959 and said that level of technology didn't belong in a Ferrari (which, if I remember correctly, was part of the run up to the development of the venerable F40). Nowadays, the cars look and feel like computers. You've experienced it, just as I have. Even on the track I drove that 430, stuck in automatic mode, it wasn't all that exciting outside of the intangible parts of the experience. Great car, in a way, but I preferred driving my Z4 to the 430.

I respect these cars as engineering feats. I really do. But, rarely do engineering feats get my blood pumping. These new Ferraris are damn near perfect, and perfection is hard to love, as with cars and with people. Flaws are what I find so endearing about the 911 (which has also waned for me lately) and cars of its ilk. Yes, I like older Ferraris, not just because they had style, which these cars now lack, but they also had a certain I-don't-know-what (in French), which these cars just don't have. Charm, maybe.

And to be fair, it's not just Ferrari that often leaves me cold. The new Pagani does nothing for me, Mclarens have always seemed sanitized, and even Lamborghinis are less exciting than they used to be.

And it's not just that they don't come with a stick, nor is it that I believe a driving a stick is some mythical quest. It's just how I prefer to do things and that won't change.

[12,000 RPM]

Not a fan of this car just based on styling alone.  I wish Ferrari would build an F355 equivalent.  If Ferrari built a small displacement V8 pushing 400 hp, a 6 speed manual, 2800 lbs, and sexy styling, I would be all over that shit.  Of course, I wouldn't be able to afford it still so it really wouldn't matter if they built it or not.

They are supposedly bringing back the Dino. So no V8 (personally I prefer the sound of a 6 cylinder....nobody wants to admit it, but flat plane V8s sound like throaty 4 bangers), but all the rest of the stuff u want. OR u could just supercharge a Cayman

Personally, I feel like the F430 and 458 needed more power/torque. My bike is about as fast as the F430 through the quarter, and could hang with a 458 from 0-60. This thing should be down in the 9s for the quarter mile, which is "bloody fast m8". If I were to buy one of these cars I would probably only track them.... even the lowly F430 is fcking pointless on the street, you have to break the law just to warm it up. The cars are fast no doubt but they dont feel very fast. Turbo torque would fix that. U can get divine balance in a $30K Subaru and street fast balance in a $60K Cayman. For $300K+ I want to shake hands with God

[MrH]

Well on that note, isn't your bike fucking pointless too?  You have to break the law just to warm it up?

One side of your mouth says it's slower than your bike so it's not that fast.  The other side says well, who cares, because it's illegal.  Well, what is it?