Audi A4

[SJ_GTI]

No, it's quite good. I'm just saying, if you had to settle for an Automatic, there is no reason to settle a S3/4 when you can just buy a superior machine outright, even in automatic form.

Go back and reread what I said. I never remotely said would settle for an S4 (because its automatic).

The only thing I said in relation to the S3 is that if, for some reason, I had to settle an automatic I would give it a look (ie: it would be looked at along with a group of many cars that are also automatic). But since I don't yet have to settle for an automatic (at least not yet), I would not even consider it.