Waggins

Started by Eye of the Tiger, September 27, 2015, 09:58:21 PM

Cheap, reliable, available, good MPG, likely to have working A/C wagons.

Saturn LW200/300
1 (11.1%)
Saab 9-5 2.3T
1 (11.1%)
Volvo 850 T5
0 (0%)
Volvo 940/960
1 (11.1%)
Volvo V40
1 (11.1%)
Ford Focus
4 (44.4%)
Subaru Legacy
0 (0%)
Toyota Tercel 4wd
1 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Eye of the Tiger

I should probably get a backup vehicle. My preference is waggin instead of another pickup. Don't care about much. Autotragic is okay. A/C and > 20 MPG is also good. Commonly < $2000 is good. Expensive repairs are no good.
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Madman

Did someone say Waggin?


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JWC

I've had my 2000 Volvo wagon since 2006. Best car I've owned (except 1964 VW camper, but the V70 has been more reliable). My V70 has hauled lawnmowers, wood fence planks, and a lot of gear for weddings. It down right now, not sure if it is out. Still counting.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: JWC on September 28, 2015, 04:58:00 AM
I've had my 2000 Volvo wagon since 2006. Best car I've owned (except 1964 VW camper, but the V70 has been more reliable). My V70 has hauled lawnmowers, wood fence planks, and a lot of gear for weddings. It down right now, not sure if it is out. Still counting.

Is it turbo or no? And what kind of MPG do you get?
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12,000 RPM

I have a soft spot for Saabs. Should be able to get an old one for cheap too.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 28, 2015, 06:44:08 AM
I have a soft spot for Saabs. Should be able to get an old one for cheap too.

I like how the 9-5 2.3T drives, even though the autotragic's manual shift mode is pointlessly unresponsive.
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MrH

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JWC

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 28, 2015, 06:30:35 AM
Is it turbo or no? And what kind of MPG do you get?

Non-turbo. It averages about 26mpg overall. On the freeway at 70mph, the display shows 32-33mpg.

Quote from: MrH on September 28, 2015, 08:57:32 AM
Buy John's Volvo.  It needs some lovin.  You can provide that lovin.

It needs a lot of lovin'. I still haven't listed it for sale yet. I'm having a difficult time coming to grips with the idea of not owning it.

I've owned a Saab---I got rid of it for the Volvo. The Saab was great to drive, but it was an electronic nightmare. SID was failing--$600 to replace. Turbo vent sludge problems for that year. The clincher was the alarm going off. The alarm back-up module is sealed, with two AA batteries inside. But, it is sealed? You have to remove the front bumper cover and break open the module, replace the batteries, then try to seal it back up well enough that water doesn't intrude and destroy it. Stupid design.

12,000 RPM

Saabs were also early to the "radio that's integrated with everything" craze, but they look like regular double DIN units. So u get the stodgy dash design with out the ability to replace the radio. Yea pass on them.
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giant_mtb

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 28, 2015, 12:28:35 PM
Saabs were also early to the "radio that's integrated with everything" craze, but they look like regular double DIN units. So u get the stodgy dash design with out the ability to replace the radio. Yea pass on them.

A sub-$2000 backup vehicle for work...yeah, radio is #1 Priority I'm sure.

2o6

The Saturns are OK in 4cyl guise. The 3.0L should be avoided at all costs.

The Saab is impossible to get parts for.

The Volvos are ok, but the 940 is more reliable than the tempermental 850

The V40 is absolute garbage

The Tercel is awesome, but good luck finding one

Legacy is solid

The Focus is OK

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 2o6 on September 28, 2015, 12:53:22 PM
The Saturns are OK in 4cyl guise. The 3.0L should be avoided at all costs.

The Saab is impossible to get parts for.

The Volvos are ok, but the 940 is more reliable than the tempermental 850

The V40 is absolute garbage

The Tercel is awesome, but good luck finding one

Legacy is solid

The Focus is OK

Yeah, that Saturn LW300 engine is not easy to work on. But I'm not afraid of it.

Quote from: giant_mtb on September 28, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
A sub-$2000 backup vehicle for work...yeah, radio is #1 Priority I'm sure.

Dude, my primary vehicle doesn't even have a radio.  :lol:
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: JWC on September 28, 2015, 09:53:14 AM
Non-turbo. It averages about 26mpg overall. On the freeway at 70mph, the display shows 32-33mpg.

It needs a lot of lovin'. I still haven't listed it for sale yet. I'm having a difficult time coming to grips with the idea of not owning it.

I've owned a Saab---I got rid of it for the Volvo. The Saab was great to drive, but it was an electronic nightmare. SID was failing--$600 to replace. Turbo vent sludge problems for that year. The clincher was the alarm going off. The alarm back-up module is sealed, with two AA batteries inside. But, it is sealed? You have to remove the front bumper cover and break open the module, replace the batteries, then try to seal it back up well enough that water doesn't intrude and destroy it. Stupid design.

Let me know when you decide to sell it, if it's in the next month. I'm buying pretty soon.
It will probably end up being whatever is s good deal at the time, but most likely one of the choices I listed.
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JWC

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 28, 2015, 01:30:17 PM
Let me know when you decide to sell it, if it's in the next month. I'm buying pretty soon.
It will probably end up being whatever is s good deal at the time, but most likely one of the choices I listed.

Will do. At least we're only a few hundred miles apart.

Quote from: 2o6 on September 28, 2015, 12:53:22 PM


The Tercel is awesome, but good luck finding one


What year Tercel? When I worked for Toyota back in the 1990s, we dreaded those things because of temperamental throttle bodies causing stalling problems. I think the TB was updated six times in one year.

2o6

A 4WD wagon one would be like an 1985-1986. Great cars, terrible rust.



You would probably find a Corolla All Trac easier

Eye of the Tiger

I like the Tercel better. An older one with a carburetor would be sweet, but impossible to find.
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Eye of the Tiger

I forgot about PT Cruiser. I'd pay $2K for one.
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giant_mtb

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 28, 2015, 05:06:07 PM
I forgot about PT Cruiser. I'd pay $2K for one.

I'd rather have a Chevy HHR.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: giant_mtb on September 28, 2015, 06:00:20 PM
I'd rather have a Chevy HHR.

Oh, I don't think so. The PT is bad enough.
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Eye of the Tiger

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Byteme

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 27, 2015, 09:58:21 PM
I should probably get a backup vehicle. My preference is waggin instead of another pickup. Don't care about much. Autotragic is okay. A/C and > 20 MPG is also good. Commonly < $2000 is good. Expensive repairs are no good.

How about an 01-06 Escape?  It's essentially a tall station wagon.

Also a late 90's Escort Wagon might be a consideration if you can find one that's in good shape.  Cheap and about 90% of the cargo capacity of the Escape and with a manual it gets over 30 MPG.

Eye of the Tiger

Escapes are still expensive because SUV WOW.
Escorts are usually pretty junky by now.
Saturns, however, depriciate like Jaguars. Still fresh, but cheap as anything.
http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/5233123786.html
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2o6


Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 2o6 on September 30, 2015, 12:33:41 PM
Finish this swap, Nick

http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/5170174627.html

If I had a garage, I'd pick it up this weekend.
Do you have any idea how much of a waste my life is without a garage to work in? I fucking hate it.
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Eye of the Tiger

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Eye of the Tiger

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Eye of the Tiger

Or another holy fuckstick:

http://asheville.craigslist.org/cto/5243490263.html

But then I might need a third backup :lol:
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