911 R! AWW SKEET SKEET SKEET FAAAKKKK

Started by 12,000 RPM, March 01, 2016, 06:16:32 AM

SVT666

I would like to see that in real life because any 911 I see the back seat pretty much touches the back of the front seat...and it's only got 4 cu.ft. of luggage space.

BimmerM3

Even if you can fit a couple kids back there, I wouldn't consider something a "legit family car" unless a single parent could realistically use it as an only vehicle. That would be extremely difficult in a 911.

FlatBlackCaddy

Depends on how much you value driving....and how much you resent your children.

I'd do it.

Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 15, 2016, 01:58:46 PM
Ha ha, crazy indeed.








I'm 5'8" and there isn't enough room behind me for any child over 4 or 5.


Are you serious guys?
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 15, 2016, 02:35:51 PM
Naw...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/comments/33d06c/can_a_911_be_a_dad_car/

That means he had them in through various iterations of car seats. 911 is most certainly a family car

I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying that it's hardly practical.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 15, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
Depends on how much you value driving....and how much you resent your children.

I'd do it.

I think I would too.  :mask:
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

SVT666

Wait until you're on a long drive and the kids are complaining and crying about being uncomfortable and they're kicking your seats.  You will be wishing you had bought a fucking Dodge Ram Mega Cab.  Trust me, it already happens in our G37. My daughter is just a hair under 5 feet tall and my son is just 3" behind her and they complain about leg room and being uncomfortable on anything longer than 45 minutes.

Cookie Monster

Under 5 feet tall and complaining about leg room in a G37? :wtf: :confused:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Submariner

With me in the drivers seat, my pop's 911 had zero room in the back.  With him in the drivers seat, there was room for perhaps an infant seat.

If you have children above the age of 4, count a 911 out as a family car. 
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Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2016, 03:51:16 PM
Wait until you're on a long drive and the kids are complaining and crying about being uncomfortable and they're kicking your seats.  You will be wishing you had bought a fucking Dodge Ram Mega Cab.  Trust me, it already happens in our G37. My daughter is just a hair under 5 feet tall and my son is just 3" behind her and they complain about leg room and being uncomfortable on anything longer than 45 minutes.
Your kids <> all kids, and for that matter, you <> all people (I know you and your wife are taller than average).

OK, a legit family car is a stretch, but the point is you can fit small children in it. Plus if you have a 911, unless you are a single dad, you have another car in the household. And even if you are a single dad, if you can legitimately afford your 911, you can probably have a more kid friendly car too.

I would bet most kids hate riding in ALL cars for long rides, but most rides aren't long, and ALL kids love cool cars.
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RomanChariot

Quote from: Submariner on March 15, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
With me in the drivers seat, my pop's 911 had zero room in the back.  With him in the drivers seat, there was room for perhaps an infant seat.

If you have children above the age of 4, count a 911 out as a family car. 

Actually, infant seats take up more room the front facing seats.

SVT666

Quote from: thecarnut on March 15, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
Under 5 feet tall and complaining about leg room in a G37? :wtf: :confused:
The G37 is a compact car man. 


SVT666

Quote from: RomanChariot on March 15, 2016, 04:05:21 PM
Actually, infant seats take up more room the front facing seats.
Hell yeah they do.

12,000 RPM

Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2016, 04:14:14 PM
The G37 is a compact car man. 




FWIW my boss has a 335i which pretty much matches the G37 in all dimensions and at 5' 10" I fit in it fine. Kids will complain about anything if they're bored and being strapped in a car for hours on end is torture for them.
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2016, 04:14:14 PM
The G37 is a compact car man. 



My dad has a G37. I'm 6'3" and have sat in the back for extended trips a couple times. It's not bad at all. Kids complain for complaining sake, but to say that a G37 can't accommodate a <5' person is crazy.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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CaminoRacer

Point is that if kids complain in a G37, they're gonna be raising hell in a 911.

I rode in the back of my dad's Camaro for long roadtrips as a kid, but it was obviously a cool car so I was fine with it. A 911 isn't as obviously cool to kids so I'm not sure they'd stay quiet.
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 15, 2016, 06:08:14 PM
Point is that if kids complain in a G37, they're gonna be raising hell in a 911.

I rode in the back of my dad's Camaro for long roadtrips as a kid, but it was obviously a cool car so I was fine with it. A 911 isn't as obviously cool to kids so I'm not sure they'd stay quiet.
A 911 isn't as obviously cool as a Camaro :confused:

And kids complaining isn't the car's fault. There are kids who are fine riding in the back of 911s. Happy even. His situation is his alone to deal with
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 15, 2016, 06:08:14 PM
Point is that if kids complain in a G37, they're gonna be raising hell in a 911.

I rode in the back of my dad's Camaro for long roadtrips as a kid, but it was obviously a cool car so I was fine with it. A 911 isn't as obviously cool to kids so I'm not sure they'd stay quiet.

I'm not sure what your second sentence has to do with anything. You were into cars as a little kid (or knew enough to think they were cool). A kid that doesn't give a shit about cars won't care if he's in a 911 or a Camero. Similarly, if your dad had a 911 instead of a Camero you'd probably still think it was cool and would have been fine with it.

I don't know how kids complain in the back of a G37. I'm not doubting Hemi, but it's just weird because I'm so much taller and find it fine. I also grew up in the back of tin can cars. Maybe I just complained a lot. I dunno.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 15, 2016, 06:21:48 PM
A 911 isn't as obviously cool as a Camaro :confused:

And kids complaining isn't the car's fault. There are kids who are fine riding in the back of 911s. Happy even. His situation is his alone to deal with

New 911s aren't as loud or fast sounding/feeling, and no one gives you a thumbs up or says cool car when you're at the gas station. An old 911 would qualify, but a new one would be borderline.

Sure you might find some kids that won't complain, but you'll find more that will. :huh:

Quote from: thecarnut on March 15, 2016, 06:31:43 PM
I'm not sure what your second sentence has to do with anything. You were into cars as a little kid (or knew enough to think they were cool). A kid that doesn't give a shit about cars won't care if he's in a 911 or a Camero. Similarly, if your dad had a 911 instead of a Camero you'd probably still think it was cool and would have been fine with it.

I don't know how kids complain in the back of a G37. I'm not doubting Hemi, but it's just weird because I'm so much taller and find it fine. I also grew up in the back of tin can cars. Maybe I just complained a lot. I dunno.

Kids also need more space on roadtrips than adults. They've got tons of crap to entertain them, and that eats into their room. I always wished I had more room in our old Accord and Mazda6.
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SVT666

Quote from: thecarnut on March 15, 2016, 05:44:24 PM
My dad has a G37. I'm 6'3" and have sat in the back for extended trips a couple times. It's not bad at all. Kids complain for complaining sake, but to say that a G37 can't accommodate a <5' person is crazy.
Never did I say it can't accommodate.

SVT666

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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 15, 2016, 05:35:52 PM


FWIW my boss has a 335i which pretty much matches the G37 in all dimensions and at 5' 10" I fit in it fine. Kids will complain about anything if they're bored and being strapped in a car for hours on end is torture for them.
Says the guy with no kids.

My kids have never complained about leg room or space in my Explorer.

SVT666



Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 15, 2016, 06:08:14 PM
Point is that if kids complain in a G37, they're gonna be raising hell in a 911.

This.

SVT666



Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 15, 2016, 05:35:52 PM



The second picture shows the seats far more forward than the top photo which is pretty close to where ours are.


Cookie Monster

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 15, 2016, 06:52:59 PM
New 911s aren't as loud or fast sounding/feeling, and no one gives you a thumbs up or says cool car when you're at the gas station. An old 911 would qualify, but a new one would be borderline.

Sure you might find some kids that won't complain, but you'll find more that will. :huh:

Kids also need more space on roadtrips than adults. They've got tons of crap to entertain them, and that eats into their room. I always wished I had more room in our old Accord and Mazda6.

Hemi was saying his kids complain about legroom, implying that the car itself is too small. I don't know what having a bunch of extra junk to play with has to do with that.

Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2016, 08:45:17 PM
Never did I say it can't accommodate.

Comfortably accomodate? :huh:

FWIW I think the G37's rear seat is pretty nice. Enough legroom, and the seat itself feels nicely bolstered. I've never sat in the car with the driver's seat in my position, though, so I can't comment on how it is to sit behind someone super tall.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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2 4 R

Raza

Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2016, 04:15:00 PM
Hell yeah they do.

To be fair to Zach, he probably didn't know there was a difference between an "infant seat" and a "front facing child seat".  I know I don't.  I mean, I knew rear facing seats take up more room than front facing seats, but I didn't know that they were called infant seats. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

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Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2016, 08:45:44 PM
Says the guy with no kids.

My kids have never complained about leg room or space in my Explorer.
This doesn't mean their complaints are valid- Explorer only has 1 more inch of combined legroom than the G37. Sounds like a pea under the mattress situation
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Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 16, 2016, 04:23:52 AM
This doesn't mean their complaints are valid- Explorer only has 1 more inch of combined legroom than the G37. Sounds like a pea under the mattress situation

We both know there's more to seat comfort than the legroom number.  That's overly simplistic. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

SVT666

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 16, 2016, 04:23:52 AM
This doesn't mean their complaints are valid- Explorer only has 1 more inch of combined legroom than the G37. Sounds like a pea under the mattress situation
I can assure you, as someone who owns both vehicles, there is much more than one inch of difference.

CaminoRacer

More upright seating position = front seats don't need to be pushed back as far to be comfortable.
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SVT666

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 16, 2016, 09:58:32 AM
More upright seating position = front seats don't need to be pushed back as far to be comfortable.
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