FBC's Kit Car Build Thread.

[Rupert]

LOL, this fucking failure.

[MrH]

There's a good chance I would have bought the kit and donor too if I had known it was for sale.

FBC is the worst.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Thanks for all the kind words and support guys.

[mzziaz]

Hahaha

[shp4man]

Actually, this sort of thing is fairly common with garage projects. They start out with a dream, then a slow letdown to reality, then a loss of interest, then abandonment. There's even a show about it on Velocity. 

[FoMoJo]

He just sounds lazy .

[FlatBlackCaddy]

He just sounds lazy .

Bingo!!!!

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Just too much on my plate. I still have a lot to do with the other cars. More than enough to keep me busy. That project was taking up 2 to 3 stalls, and represented the most work and the highest cost of completion. It was a no brainer as far as first to go.

Plus I got my money back, so not out much.

[Payman]

Just too much on my plate. I still have a lot to do with the other cars. More than enough to keep me busy. That project was taking up 2 to 3 stalls, and represented the most work and the highest cost of completion. It was a no brainer as far as first to go.

Plus I got my money back, so not out much.

Pretty selfish if you ask me.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Pretty selfish if you ask me.

I don't just play an asshole on TV, I'm one in real life too.

I'll find a way to make up for it on the next go around.

[Rupert]

Esprit

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Esprit

Great car, totally undervalued by the collector community.

[Rupert]

You said you wanted to make up for your failures...

[MrH]

Just too much on my plate. I still have a lot to do with the other cars. More than enough to keep me busy. That project was taking up 2 to 3 stalls, and represented the most work and the highest cost of completion. It was a no brainer as far as first to go.

Plus I got my money back, so not out much.

How much did you get for everything?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

About 9k, lost a few hundred bucks.

[MrH]

 

[12,000 RPM]

I wish OEMs would just make cars like this. I imagine a mass produced Exocet would be cheaper than a real Miata. The question is whether or not the sports car market is too bitch made to support it

[MX793]

I wish OEMs would just make cars like this. I imagine a mass produced Exocet would be cheaper than a real Miata. The question is whether or not the sports car market is too bitch made to support it

They'd never meet federal crash and safety standards.  By the time they add in all of the required safety stuff, crash tested in, and federalized it, it would be a much heavier and much more expensive vehicle.

[Payman]

I wish OEMs would just make cars like this. I imagine a mass produced Exocet would be cheaper than a real Miata. The question is whether or not the sports car market is too bitch made to support it

A welded tube chassis can't be mass produced as cheaply as a stamped steel structure. The market just isn't there to support the costs involved.

[12,000 RPM]

They'd never meet federal crash and safety standards.  By the time they add in all of the required safety stuff, crash tested in, and federalized it, it would be a much heavier and much more expensive vehicle.

I'd sign a waiver

I mean they still sell motorcycles. It's ridiculous.

[MX793]

I'd sign a waiver

I mean they still sell motorcycles. It's ridiculous.

Motorcycles require a specialized license and operate very differently from an automobile.  Someone who has never driven/ridden a bike is unlikely to be able to jump onto a bike and make it very far without some instruction.  In contrast, someone who knows how to drive a car can jump into an Exocet or similar and drive off with little issue.

On a related note, I hear about far more ATV and snowmobile fatalities than I do dirtbikes out on the trails.  Why?  The latter require considerably more skill to operate, whereas the latter can be operated by anybody who's ever operated any kind of motor vehicle before given that they are statically stable and the controls are limited to throttle, steering, and brake.

[12,000 RPM]

Motorcycles require a specialized license and operate very differently from an automobile.  Someone who has never driven/ridden a bike is unlikely to be able to jump onto a bike and make it very far without some instruction.  In contrast, someone who knows how to drive a car can jump into an Exocet or similar and drive off with little issue.

Which is why they would make you sign a waiver when you buy one. "This thing has no airbags, no crumple zone, and will probably decapitate you a crash with a CR-V... you cool wit dat?" In the UK people DD track specials all over... I saw a few Caterams during the week I was there.

Only issue I see is it could open the door for manufacturers to strip away safety features on regular cars to cut costs.

[Soup DeVille]

Which is why they would make you sign a waiver when you buy one. "This thing has no airbags, no crumple zone, and will probably decapitate you a crash with a CR-V... you cool wit dat?" In the UK people DD track specials all over... I saw a few Caterams during the week I was there.

Only issue I see is it could open the door for manufacturers to strip away safety features on regular cars to cut costs.

The argument for motorcycles has always been that they aren't very likely to endanger anybody but themselves. Of course that does happen, but a 500 lb single passenger vehicle does much less damage than a 4000 lb six passenger one.

[RomanChariot]

Motorcycles have been around since before safety regulations which makes them hard to force out of production. It is also very difficult to design safety features into motorcycles so they are essentially grandfathered into the system as an exception to the rules. There  is no way that they will allow new mass produced vehicles into the system as exceptions.

[giant_mtb]

On a related note, I hear about far more ATV and snowmobile fatalities than I do dirtbikes out on the trails.  Why?  The latter require considerably more skill to operate, whereas the latter can be operated by anybody who's ever operated any kind of motor vehicle before given that they are statically stable and the controls are limited to throttle, steering, and brake.

True dat.

[12,000 RPM]

The argument for motorcycles has always been that they aren't very likely to endanger anybody but themselves. Of course that does happen, but a 500 lb single passenger vehicle does much less damage than a 4000 lb six passenger one.

Then we can put a weight limit on these things (even better). As low and light as these things are, if there's any kind of vehicle to vehicle contact mosquito car occupants lose. Still way better than a motorcycle.

[Rupert]

Motorcycles require a specialized license and operate very differently from an automobile.  Someone who has never driven/ridden a bike is unlikely to be able to jump onto a bike and make it very far without some instruction.  In contrast, someone who knows how to drive a car can jump into an Exocet or similar and drive off with little issue.

On a related note, I hear about far more ATV and snowmobile fatalities than I do dirtbikes out on the trails.  Why?  The latter require considerably more skill to operate, whereas the latter can be operated by anybody who's ever operated any kind of motor vehicle before given that they are statically stable and the controls are limited to throttle, steering, and brake.

There are also a lot more ATVs than dirtbikes, at least around here.

[giant_mtb]

There are also a lot more ATVs than dirtbikes, at least around here.

And ATVs are a lot easier to ride under the influence of alcohol...no balancing, lots are clutchless shifting.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

New thread coming soon, whole new project......

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Aaaannnd I sold it already.