2016 Spark review... man cars have come a long way

Started by 12,000 RPM, July 22, 2016, 12:19:59 PM

12,000 RPM

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-chevrolet-spark-test-review

QuoteBase Spark LS equipment includes 10 airbags, Bluetooth phone connectivity, Chevy's MyLink infotainment interface with a 7.0-inch touchscreen and a USB input for Android Auto and Apple Carplay interfaces, a rearview camera, and OnStar with 4G LTE for three months. Stepping up to the LT, for $2025 extra, brings six-speaker audio (up from four) with satellite radio, power windows, some chrome exterior trim, cruise control, power door locks, keyless entry, steering-wheel controls for the audio and phone systems, and 15-inch aluminum wheels.

Bro there are cars that cost 2-3x as much that don't have all this stuff. Yuck at cruise control not being standard equipment on a car with an ECU and electronic throttle body though.
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Rich

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 22, 2016, 12:19:59 PM
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-chevrolet-spark-test-review

Yuck at cruise control not being standard equipment on a car with an ECU and electronic throttle body though.


Haha yeah.

I wish these little cars still had the same proportions as the early 2000s Protege's/late '90s Civics.  I know, more room, more trunk, blah blah blah... but they look god awful with how tall they are with the tiny diameter tires and windsheilds that reach the front bumper that make you feel you're piloting a marine vessel
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2o6

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 22, 2016, 12:19:59 PM
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-chevrolet-spark-test-review

Bro there are cars that cost 2-3x as much that don't have all this stuff. Yuck at cruise control not being standard equipment on a car with an ECU and electronic throttle body though.

Cruise control is usually plug-n-play on modern cars. It's a way to extort an extra $1000 from you.


With the Cruze and Sonic, it literally only requires a steering wheel swap. For the Yaris, (2009+) it only requires installing the switch in the wheel.

I liked the new Spark when I drove it a few weeks ago (pre Sonic). If the rear bench was a 3-person affair, I may have jumped.

MX793

Quote from: Rich on July 22, 2016, 12:27:49 PM

Haha yeah.

I wish these little cars still had the same proportions as the early 2000s Protege's/late '90s Civics.  I know, more room, more trunk, blah blah blah... but they look god awful with how tall they are with the tiny diameter tires and windsheilds that reach the front bumper that make you feel you're piloting a marine vessel


Quote from: Rich on July 22, 2016, 12:27:49 PM

Haha yeah.

I wish these little cars still had the same proportions as the early 2000s Protege's/late '90s Civics.  I know, more room, more trunk, blah blah blah... but they look god awful with how tall they are with the tiny diameter tires and windsheilds that reach the front bumper that make you feel you're piloting a marine vessel


The Spark is on a much smaller footprint than a late 90s Civic or Protege.  Wheelbase is roughly 10 inches shorter.  This is more Geo Metro or Ford Aspire sized, and neither of those cars were very pretty.
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2o6

Eh, those old cars are uncomfortable.


I like the way my car looks

:huh:


12,000 RPM

I feel like you can get a Sonic with adaptive radar cruise control. Man if small cars weren't so cramped ugly and cheaply made there would be no point in luxury cars (lol)
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giant_mtb

Pretty fuckin lame in this day and age to offer 174 airbags, an iPad dash, blueteeth, and a camera for people that don't know how to Reverse and not just install the fuckin cruise control. 

Payman

The "loaded" $14,000 car draws you in. Cruise is left off on purpose because it's part of the $6000 tech package.

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Quote from: Rockraven on July 23, 2016, 02:51:06 PM
The "loaded" $14,000 car draws you in. Cruise is left off on purpose because it's part of the $6000 tech package.

Yep. Then the dealer will tell you it's "Impossible" to add cruise on a base model.

giant_mtb

Quote from: Rockraven on July 23, 2016, 02:51:06 PM
The "loaded" $14,000 car draws you in. Cruise is left off on purpose because it's part of the $6000 tech package.

Again, pretty fuckin lame. 

Char

Quote from: 2o6 on July 22, 2016, 12:46:54 PM
Eh, those old cars are uncomfortable.


I like the way my car looks

:huh:



Don't change those wheels, it looks good like that.
Quote from: 565 on December 26, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
... Nissan needs to use these shocks on the GT-R.  It would be like the Incredible Hulk wielding Thor's hammer.... unstoppable.

12,000 RPM

I fuck with the Sonic. It's only a little cramped in the back. But in rental spec it feels more expensive than my car
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AutobahnSHO

When I left Germany, you could still order a Bimmer or Benz with roll-down windows. Wonder if it's still like that there??

Just kinda shows how pampered and 'entitled' :lol: the US/Canadian car buyer feels they are. :lol: :lol:
Will

2o6

Quote from: Char on July 23, 2016, 05:04:01 PM
Don't change those wheels, it looks good like that.

They make the same wheels in black.





MX793

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12,000 RPM

Not really a fan of black wheels in general. You lose all the details of the wheel. Might as well get steelies.

I am a fan of black on bronze or gunmetal. Silver/white wheels on a black car is too much contrast.
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MX793

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 26, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
Not really a fan of black wheels in general. You lose all the details of the wheel. Might as well get steelies.

I am a fan of black on bronze or gunmetal. Silver/white wheels on a black car is too much contrast.

I like black wheels on a lighter colored car, but on a black car, I prefer a wheel with some contrast.  Silver, bronze, or gunmetal.  Even chrome, depending on the car.
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Cookie Monster

Odd it comes with a 7" touchscreen and Bluetooth but no power door locks.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
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Laconian

Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 10:40:49 AM
Odd it comes with a 7" touchscreen and Bluetooth but no power door locks.

Not really... the infotainment unit probably costs $40 to manufacture and requires nothing else except a double DIN cubby and a power cable.
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2o6

Yeah. It's also shared with other GM products. And omits stuff like a CD player.


It's probably more expensive to put in a cheap stereo.

12,000 RPM

Yea the less variation the better in some cases. I do think the omission of cruise control and power door locks is a cynical ploy to get a low entry price but force folks to pony up for features that should be standard. The B-segment is brutal and low profit though so I can't blame manufacturers for doing that.
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Char

Quote from: 565 on December 26, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
... Nissan needs to use these shocks on the GT-R.  It would be like the Incredible Hulk wielding Thor's hammer.... unstoppable.