$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

Started by 12,000 RPM, September 04, 2016, 02:20:39 PM

What would you pick?

2012+ Civic Si
0 (0%)
Focus ST
5 (31.3%)
E90 335i
5 (31.3%)
G35/G37 6MT sedan
5 (31.3%)
Fuck it :huh: Built R18 + turbo kit + drive Demon Civic into a pile of ashes
1 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 16

CALL_911

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 10, 2016, 05:50:49 AM
I had the feeling.

A new challenger enters....



Only downside.... no LSD. Well, and is a good bit slower than the others out of the box, and has that weird gearing. Mixed feelings, don't think I wanna do another "I think I can" 4 banger.... or stickshift.....
Woof


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12,000 RPM

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More my style.... sorry guys I'm a ricer :huh:
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CALL_911



2004 S2000
2016 340xi

Cookie Monster

RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Vinsanity

yeah not sure how your car will ride after you throw a set of fully compressed coilovers on it. might be a tad bit harsh for your commute.

CaminoRacer

They all look horrible lowered like that
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: Vinsanity on September 10, 2016, 08:30:20 AM
yeah not sure how your car will ride after you throw a set of fully compressed coilovers on it. might be a tad bit harsh for your commute.
Roads around here are awesome. Z rode great. Coilovers will be no problem. I wish the coils on the Civic were stiffer

Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 10, 2016, 10:15:54 AM
They all look horrible lowered like that
Well you think cars > bikes so I will put this in that context :lol:
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Cookie Monster

Fuck that, all those cars look great. Even the 200, which is hard to say because I know that car is a turd otherwise.
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

12,000 RPM

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CaminoRacer

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 10, 2016, 10:46:45 AM
Well you think cars > bikes so I will put this in that context :lol:

Nah, I think built protouring cars = bikes.
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Cookie Monster

RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 10, 2016, 05:50:49 AM
I had the feeling.

A new challenger enters....



Only downside.... no LSD. Well, and is a good bit slower than the others out of the box, and has that weird gearing. Mixed feelings, don't think I wanna do another "I think I can" 4 banger.... or stickshift.....

What is that?
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Raza

Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 10, 2016, 10:15:54 AM
They all look horrible lowered like that

The BMW almost pulls it off, but lowering them that much really points out how awkward and fat looking the rear wheel area looks on the other cars. And it makes them look like the front is higher than the rear because of how weird the wheel wells look.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Raza

Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 10, 2016, 10:48:53 AM
Fuck that, all those cars look great. Even the 200, which is hard to say because I know that car is a turd otherwise.

They look like they're carrying dead bodies in the trunk over a broken rear suspension.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

68_427

Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


Raza

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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

12,000 RPM

Stock is boring

ILX has nicer interior, isn't rice rice baby teenage dream with VTEC indicator
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MX793

Lowered such that the tires/wheels are concentric with the wheel arches in the fender - good

Lowered such that the fender conceals some of the tire - bad.  Looks especially bad when the front tire is partially concealed by the fender.
Needs more Jiggawatts

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12,000 RPM

Yes

Concentricity is the goal

See: my car
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Cookie Monster

Your car is still kind of high for my tastes.

For a DD that I'm not trying to stuff a giant amount of rubber under, I would definitely lower it down further. My car isn't super low and still has fender gap to clear the giant wheels and tires and to not handle like crap, but on a non-track driven DD I'd totally lower it as much as possible.
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

CaminoRacer

Quote from: MX793 on September 10, 2016, 06:15:33 PM
Lowered such that the tires/wheels are concentric with the wheel arches in the fender - good

Lowered such that the fender conceals some of the tire - bad.  Looks especially bad when the front tire is partially concealed by the fender.

+1

(Except on older cars like mine where the tires are meant to tuck in. Then you lower it until the fender is even with the top lip of the rim)
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Xer0

Honestly, the more I read this thread the more I realize you want a Civic Turbo.  Its almost as fast the Si, it gets something like 36 mpg combined, is super comfortable, and is available with both an auto and manual.  You should be able to get them a tad over 20k too.  And best of all, it'll have that new car smell.  You're jumping through too many mental hoops to justify getting something boring, just own up to it and go full boring with a new Civic!

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: Xer0 on September 11, 2016, 11:33:26 AM
Honestly, the more I read this thread the more I realize you want a Civic Turbo.  Its almost as fast the Si, it gets something like 36 mpg combined, is super comfortable, and is available with both an auto and manual.  You should be able to get them a tad over 20k too.  And best of all, it'll have that new car smell.  You're jumping through too many mental hoops to justify getting something boring, just own up to it and go full boring with a new Civic!
:cheers:
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MrH

Quote from: Xer0 on September 11, 2016, 11:33:26 AM
Honestly, the more I read this thread the more I realize you want a Civic Turbo.  Its almost as fast the Si, it gets something like 36 mpg combined, is super comfortable, and is available with both an auto and manual.  You should be able to get them a tad over 20k too.  And best of all, it'll have that new car smell.  You're jumping through too many mental hoops to justify getting something boring, just own up to it and go full boring with a new Civic!

Yeah, you're right. Good call
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: Xer0 on September 11, 2016, 11:33:26 AM
Honestly, the more I read this thread the more I realize you want a Civic Turbo.  Its almost as fast the Si, it gets something like 36 mpg combined, is super comfortable, and is available with both an auto and manual.  You should be able to get them a tad over 20k too.  And best of all, it'll have that new car smell.  You're jumping through too many mental hoops to justify getting something boring, just own up to it and go full boring with a new Civic!
this is not a terrible idea, but it's going to take a lot for me to get over the new Civic's looks.I'm not as bad as Raza, but I do need something that doesn't make me dry heave every time I see it. The new Civic is that bad. It's a shame because the new hatchback is all turbo with the available stick shift. Maybe if they do a refresh that brings it back to planet Earth aesthetically. It looks good outside of that
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CALL_911



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Vinsanity

Quote from: CALL_911 on September 11, 2016, 08:56:03 PM
IMO the new civic looks terrific

I'm with you there. And I hate to use cliche marketing lingo, but I feel that it's a true game-changer. It's the kind of car that would make people question spending money on anything more expensive

12,000 RPM

On paper it's perfect but that rear end is ghastly. I would always have to back it in
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MrH

It looks better than the Chrysler 200 IMO :huh:

In blue, the new Civic looks really good.  Just get the new Civic Type R.  Then stop wasting time thinking about turboing the engine yourself.  That's crazy talk.
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