$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

[12,000 RPM]

He misshifted his civic.  That's what killed it.  And now he's looking at autos.

I just think a Mazda6 is more enjoyable to drive.  A V6 camry is quick, but not really satisfying.

"Satisfying" is very subjective. Like I said before, the Mazda3 2.0 and Golf TSI drove exactly the same to me, except for the Golf's way torquier engine, which I personally found more satisfying. At the minimum I figure it's worth a test drive... if it's truly awful and hopeless I'll pass. But yea I'm not interested in something like an Accord Sport or Mazda6. No replacement for a 6 cylinder

[Cookie Monster]

TSX V6?

[CaminoRacer]

Just get a FFR Cobra to satisfy your tinkering and then a CR-V for DD

[SJ_GTI]

I can see the draw of a V6. I would trade a my car's engine for a weaker (but smoother) V6 if I had a choice.

[12,000 RPM]

TSX V6?

I considered it, but let me ask you a question. What can the TSX V6 do that a Camry V6 can't that's worth worse gas mileage on premium, 1 less transmission gear, and worse condition/higher mileage for the same $$$? One of my wife's friends has a TSX wagon, and it's nice, but nothing special. Doesn't put a Camry/200 to shame IMO.

[12,000 RPM]

Just get a FFR Cobra to satisfy your tinkering and then a CR-V for DD

If I built one of those kit car go karts it would be a Honda Odyssey V6 equipped Exocet. And why a CR-V? I live in the South, no need for ground clearance or AWD. I left the north to get away from that BS.

[giant_mtb]

MrH didn't surprise me, though Camino you did. You guys do realize aftermarket parts come off right?

Whatever I get has to be a project. That is just my automotive life. It is what it is, "really stupid" or not.
Engine + trans in the auto Mazda3 2.0 rental I had sucked, this would be no better. Also really jonesing for a 6 banger
It's a shame they don't put V6s in the C segment cars. The new Corolla is bigger than a lot of old Camry V6s. I could do a Corolla with a V6 + 6AT.

Duuuuude a Corolla with AWD and a V6 would be a fuckin' HOOT in the winter.

[Cookie Monster]

I considered it, but let me ask you a question. What can the TSX V6 do that a Camry V6 can't that's worth worse gas mileage on premium, 1 less transmission gear, and worse condition/higher mileage for the same $$$? One of my wife's friends has a TSX wagon, and it's nice, but nothing special. Doesn't put a Camry/200 to shame IMO.

Better looks, better interior, better to drive?

[MrH]

I considered it, but let me ask you a question. What can the TSX V6 do that a Camry V6 can't that's worth worse gas mileage on premium, 1 less transmission gear, and worse condition/higher mileage for the same $$$? One of my wife's friends has a TSX wagon, and it's nice, but nothing special. Doesn't put a Camry/200 to shame IMO.

It'll drive significantly better than a Camry.

You need to rent a 200 for a week so you can put that idea to rest.

[12,000 RPM]

Better looks, better interior, better to drive?

Looks are in the eye of the beholder. I dislike the 2nd gen TSX more than recent Camry SEs. TSX V6 is not a great drive either.

I need to get behind the wheels of these things.

[Cookie Monster]

Looks are in the eye of the beholder. I dislike the 2nd gen TSX more than recent Camry SEs. TSX V6 is not a great drive either.

I need to get behind the wheels of these things.

OK, I'll give you looks, and FWIW the '07-14 (especially the facelifted ones) SE V6s are pretty nice looking cars.

[CALL_911]

I like the way those things look, and they sound pretty decent too. The 2GR was a beast back in its day (I would still take it over most turbo-4s)

[CaminoRacer]

If I built one of those kit car go karts it would be a Honda Odyssey V6 equipped Exocet. And why a CR-V? I live in the South, no need for ground clearance or AWD. I left the north to get away from that BS.

Fair enough. Point is to keep the new VanillaMobile stock and in mint condition, tinker with the toy.

[Laconian]

You need to rent a 200 for a week so you can put that idea to rest.

ROOOFL tell me about it. Fucking terrible car.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Duuuuude a Corolla with AWD and a V6 would be a fuckin' HOOT in the winter.

Tercel

[68_427]

[MrH]

Stop.  Don't encourage him

[12,000 RPM]

ROOOFL tell me about it. Fucking terrible car.

The base rental spec is totally different from the top of the line V6 cars.

This is too much, even for me

[MrH]

Buick Regal.  End of thread.

[Laconian]

WRX

[CALL_911]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Infiniti-Q40-Base-Sedan-4-Door-/262668652909?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d2845916d:g:lukAAOSwCGVX~HLW&item=262668652909

Quick, good looking, reasonably new, mis-shift proof

[12,000 RPM]

Buick Regal.  End of thread.

Worse than the Camry in every way I can think of, besides handling, which itself is questionable as the Regal weighs ~400-600lbs more and doesn't have good steering. Also, 4 banger that gets significantly worse fuel mileage on premium. Come ON bro.

[12,000 RPM]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Infiniti-Q40-Base-Sedan-4-Door-/262668652909?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d2845916d:g:lukAAOSwCGVX~HLW&item=262668652909

Quick, good looking, reasonably new, mis-shift proof

I know, Q40/G37 are high on the list.

[2o6]

You are making all these damn claims on driving experience and ain't driven none of them.

The Regal is sharper than the Camry.

[Cookie Monster]

Maybe we shouldn't give any more recommendations till Sporty goes out and drives all these things and reports back.


FWIW I like hearing your (sporty) take on test drives.... so get out there and do it first and then speculate/mag race.

[Laconian]

Actually, I really would love to witness his disillusionment with the 200. In real time, on a video.

Enjoy those 2nd gear kick-in-the-ass shifts and never being able to parallel park with that high trunk!

[Vinsanity]

I would at least go Accord over Camry but that's just me.

[CaminoRacer]

I would at least go Accord over Camry but that's just me.

+1

I want my mom to get an Accord Hybrid. 200 something combined HP and 50 mpg

[MrH]

I don't understand the appeal of a 200 with coilovers, exhaust, and intake. All that out the door is $24k. And will be worth $12k in 6 months.  Take out a small loan and pony up for a 2014 is350 f sport. Infinitely better car in all aspects. And when you consider depreciation from owning for a few years, cost per mile will almost certainly be less than this terrible 200 idea.

[Raza]

Camry, eh? Not really doing much to negate the soft evaluation.

In all seriousness, it's a floating boat with a big engine. You can get seasick in one. Accord is much better.