$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

[MrH]

Rebuilt title

[12,000 RPM]

Could be some body damage, could be a flood car

[MX793]

Could be some body damage, could be a flood car

Takes a lot of body damage to result in a salvage title.  Most likely a flood car.  Maybe fire/smoke damage.

[2o6]

There's a guy in that area that sells late model rebuilt title cars.



Don't touch it

[12,000 RPM]

MK7 GTI or G37? Basically is RWD + V6 sound worth $700-1000/year?

[MrH]

MK7 GTI or G37? Basically is RWD + V6 sound worth $700-1000/year?

I'd probably go GTI honestly.

[12,000 RPM]

I could put that gas money to a new bike too

[MrH]

Gas money?  It's only going to be a few hundred bucks a year.

[2o6]

Why TF does everyone like the G37? Every time I drive or get inside one, I'm immediately reminded how inferior it is to practically anything else, especially the F30 and A4.

[GoCougs]

G37 > GTI, esp. if MT vs. MT. If an AT G37, my enthusiasm is dampened a bit, and one MUST get the most recent AT ecu flash, but I'd still go that way. The GTI is the best car Germany makes, but its roots are still a FWD economy car. Odds are hugely in favor of the G37 being less costly to repair for the long haul, which will more than offset the add'l gas $.

[GoCougs]

Why TF does everyone like the G37? Every time I drive or get inside one, I'm immediately reminded how inferior it is to practically anything else, especially the F30 and A4.

The G37 looks better, is more interesting to drive, is much more reliable, has a honking N/A V6, and is generally cheaper.

[MX793]

Why TF does everyone like the G37? Every time I drive or get inside one, I'm immediately reminded how inferior it is to practically anything else, especially the F30 and A4.

Considering that the V36 G is 5 years older (an entire automotive generation) than the F30, I would certainly hope that the latter is better.

And I would wager the Infiniti is going to be cheaper to own than a BMW.

[12,000 RPM]

Gas money?  It's only going to be a few hundred bucks a year.

Could be over a thousand with my commute at current prices, will def be over a thousand if gas prices go up.

G37 > GTI, esp. if MT vs. MT. If an AT G37, my enthusiasm is dampened a bit, and one MUST get the most recent AT ecu flash, but I'd still go that way. The GTI is the best car Germany makes, but its roots are still a FWD economy car. Odds are hugely in favor of the G37 being less costly to repair for the long haul, which will more than offset the add'l gas $.

I'm not a long haul kind of guy, I don't think. At the minimum, I haven't found a car I could see myself in for like a decade, though ironically I think the G37 comes closest. If I had got one instead of the Z I'd probably still be in it.

Component by component it's tough. Engine wise the G sounds way better, which matters to me... and in stickshift is an easy second faster to 60 & 1/4. But that comes at a steep price.... almost $1K more in annual fuel costs if not more. Worth it? IDK. I'd have to add depreciation into the mix. Chassis wise, also a wash IMO... FM platform is awesome, RWD is fun, but at the end of the day the G is 600-700lb heavier and almost 2 ft longer than the GTI, on essentially the same tires (in width and type). There's something to be said for size in the context of dynamic balance. Speaking of size, width aside the cars are just as roomy as each other and the GTI has a much better trunk situation. Will be easier to park when we go to the city, or to Lowes, or the local dump etc.... I do feel like the GTI will be a much nicer car to live with.

Only real dark horses are reliability and resale.... but for 3 yrs, who cares? Plus the GTI will be under factory warranty while the G won't.

[2o6]

get the GTI

[Laconian]

Why TF does everyone like the G37? Every time I drive or get inside one, I'm immediately reminded how inferior it is to practically anything else, especially the F30 and A4.

I like the looks and steering of the G37 better. I don't really care for the syrupy helm of German cars - it feels great at speed, but it's just dour around town. G37 is definitely inferior in terms of interior fit and finish. More rattle prone, that's for sure.

VQ sounds amazing at >5K RPM, but the BMW I6 is sooooooooooo much better with NVH.

[Raza]

Why TF does everyone like the G37? Every time I drive or get inside one, I'm immediately reminded how inferior it is to practically anything else, especially the F30 and A4.

The G37 is a great car on paper.  It ends there, really. 

[Laconian]

G37 coupe is much better looking than the 3- and 5-series.

[12,000 RPM]

The G37 is a great car on paper.  It ends there, really.

I know you're gonna bring up the Z, but this is just not true. At the minimum it's no worse than anything in its class, especially when you factor in the engine and transmission options

Though to be fair if the G37 6MT is like the one in the Z I might go auto. Upgraded valve body + TCU flash are easier fixes than whatever it would take to cure that long + heavy clutch and heavy + notchy shifter

[Laconian]

Uh nope you don't want that 7AT.

[2o6]

G37 coupe is much better looking than the 3- and 5-series.

NO

[2o6]

I like the looks and steering of the G37 better. I don't really care for the syrupy helm of German cars - it feels great at speed, but it's just dour around town. G37 is definitely inferior in terms of interior fit and finish. More rattle prone, that's for sure.

VQ sounds amazing at >5K RPM, but the BMW I6 is sooooooooooo much better with NVH.

I've always thought the VQ is a lazy, dron-y motor.


(For the record, I'm a big fan of the late-torque-making GM 3.6L SIDI)

[12,000 RPM]

G37 coupe is much better looking than the 3- and 5-series.

NO

I've always thought the VQ is a lazy, dron-y motor.


(For the record, I'm a big fan of the late-torque-making GM 3.6L SIDI)

We know about you and GM though. You should preface your posts about GM with (Sponsored Content)

LFX is a great engine though. Better than the VQ in a lot of important metrics.

[2o6]

We know about you and GM though. You should preface your posts about GM with (Sponsored Content)

LFX is a great engine though. Better than the VQ in a lot of important metrics.

it's a good motor until it stretches a timing chain

[GoCougs]

G37 coupe is much better looking than the 3- and 5-series.

Totally. I actually prefer the looks of the G37 sedan to the coupe. More curves, sits back on its haunches.

Uh nope you don't want that 7AT.

Word. It's not great. I'd totally take the 6MT.

[Raza]

G37 coupe is much better looking than the 3- and 5-series.

Is that one of those things that if you keep saying it, you start believing it?

[12,000 RPM]

Is that one of those things that if you keep saying it, you start believing it?

I was going to ask the same of you calling the G/Z bad cars. Compared to what, an Audi TT?

I think the cars are different enough that it's almost hard to compare them at all. But the G is a good car. I can think of a lot of worse cars in its class.

[Raza]

I was going to ask the same of you calling the G/Z bad cars. Compared to what, an Audi TT?

I think the cars are different enough that it's almost hard to compare them at all. But the G is a good car. I can think of a lot of worse cars in its class.

Yeah, the G is a fine enough car, I suppose.  The adulation heaped on to it on this forum doesn't quite match up to its merits, though.  Let's not forget that it's mostly a spec sheet.  It's heavy, devoid of feel, and (the manual Z, especially) have horrible controls.  Unless the 3 series has gotten a lot worse since I've driven one (which is possible), it's not a competitor once the numbers fall away and the real world feel of the cars are compared. 

[12,000 RPM]

Ehhh. I've driven Gs and 3s (and Zs obviously).... G/Z def take lumps for that manual transmission and I'm definitely gonna try both transmissions. That will probably be what kills it. But the 3 is not jizzworthy. BMW shifters are a little sloppy, and I prefer the VQ37 to the N5x.... N5x has some torque, but it's choked up top, and the ones I drove did not feel super strong (it was summer time though). At the minimum I'd have to change the suspension and exhaust on both, so either way there's room for improvement. Plus what the 3 gives in feel it takes back in reliability

[12,000 RPM]

Highlander calipers/rotors are a direct swap... bout $500 for parts



Highlander/Sienna/Venza transmissions are a direct swap.... shorter final drives



Cams for the Evora are $1K.... Quaife LSD for the 6AT is $1300 (stock FD though I think).... Function Auto 500 coils are $1200

I think coilovers + brakes + intake/exhaust will be enough to hold me down for 2-3 years..... but its nice to know how deep the rabbit hole goes....................................................

I'm gonna go look at some 10-11 Camry V6s this weekend

[MrH]

Godspeed