$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

Started by 12,000 RPM, September 04, 2016, 02:20:39 PM

What would you pick?

2012+ Civic Si
0 (0%)
Focus ST
5 (31.3%)
E90 335i
5 (31.3%)
G35/G37 6MT sedan
5 (31.3%)
Fuck it :huh: Built R18 + turbo kit + drive Demon Civic into a pile of ashes
1 (6.3%)

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Rich

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Eye of the Tiger

Are those Spanish ships? Does that mean you got a Fiesta ST?
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r0tor

So a boring ass car upgraded with SUV brakes, minivan drivetrain, and unreliable British engine components... Wow
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Eye of the Tiger

The performance numbers may be good, but then there is the rest of it. I would rather have a Versa.
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MX793

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 03, 2017, 08:17:12 PM
The performance numbers may be good, but then there is the rest of it. I would rather have a Versa.

VERSA is actually an acronym.  The full name is Very Exceptional Racing Sports Automobile.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: MX793 on January 03, 2017, 08:20:54 PM
VERSA is actually an acronym.  The full name is Very Exceptional Racing Sports Automobile.

Makes sense to me.  :cheers:
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68_427

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 03, 2017, 12:45:06 PM
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Highlander calipers/rotors are a direct swap... bout $500 for parts

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Highlander/Sienna/Venza transmissions are a direct swap.... shorter final drives

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Cams for the Evora are $1K.... Quaife LSD for the 6AT is $1300 (stock FD though I think).... Function Auto 500 coils are $1200

I think coilovers + brakes + intake/exhaust will be enough to hold me down for 2-3 years..... but its nice to know how deep the rabbit hole goes....................................................

I'm gonna go look at some 10-11 Camry V6s this weekend

But the Evora only made 10hp more.  Why swap cams?
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: 68_427 on January 03, 2017, 10:03:57 PM
But the Evora only made 10hp more.  Why swap cams?

They make aftermarket cams for it

That's overkill though. An intake + exhaust will make it a 14 second car with a good engine sound. All I need
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GoCougs

Quote from: r0tor on January 03, 2017, 08:12:32 PM
So a boring ass car upgraded with SUV brakes, minivan drivetrain, and unreliable British engine components... Wow

More expensive, less reliable, and less performance than an equivalent year G37 or TL...

12,000 RPM

Quote from: GoCougs on January 04, 2017, 10:31:40 AM
More expensive, less reliable, and less performance than an equivalent year G37 or TL...
A Camry V6 is like 1/2-2/3 the price of a same year G/TL.... also lol @ a G/TL being more reliable, even factoring fail-proof parts like shocks and metal pipes.
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Eye of the Tiger

If you're going to buy a dumpy car for the engine, get an old SHO.
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GoCougs

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 04, 2017, 12:46:47 PM
A Camry V6 is like 1/2-2/3 the price of a same year G/TL.... also lol @ a G/TL being more reliable, even factoring fail-proof parts like shocks and metal pipes.

Is your Internetry ever going to get better? It's like you purposefully Do It Wrong in order to bask in the drama of it. I'm getting to the point that it literally makes me feel uneasy in my correction.

I was responding to this utterly ridiculous notion of swapping SUV/minivan brakes and transaxle into a Camry V6. The equivalent year G or TL will be less expensive, more reliable and better performing.

12,000 RPM

Quote from: GoCougs on January 04, 2017, 12:53:54 PM
Is your Internetry ever going to get better? It's like you purposefully Do It Wrong in order to bask in the drama of it. I'm getting to the point that it literally makes me feel uneasy in my correction.

I was responding to this utterly ridiculous notion of swapping SUV/minivan brakes and transaxle into a Camry V6. The equivalent year G or TL will be less expensive, more reliable and better performing.
Transaxle was mostly a joke to trigger (which worked ;) ). Brakes are fine, I've swapped them on several cars I've owned without incident. No harder than a brake flush.

Even with the mods I have planned the Camry will still be cheaper than a same year G easily. Nothing I have planned will affect reliability. G/TL are low 14/high 13 second cars; 6th gen Camry V6 does the quarter in 14.3@99... with intake/exhaust it would be just as fast. Don't get fresh with me because you've been too scared to turn a wrench since the 80s :evildude:
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Gotta-Qik-C7

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SVT_Power

All this nonsense aside, I did notice years ago that there were Camry's putting down 0-60 in the 5's. A stupidly fast family appliance.
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12,000 RPM

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Eye of the Tiger

What is all this obsession over using a barely 14 second quarter mile time to justify a boring car?
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Laconian

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giant_mtb

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 04, 2017, 03:57:04 PM
They are still that fast. Probably faster with good tires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsAMUx1Kqs

As a drum player and person with a generally great sense of rhythm, listening to people honk three times to start a race makes me itch.  They're always like Honk...HonkHONK.  Not horribly fair.

It's almost as bad as listening to a crowd trying to clap to a beat and losing it after four claps.

12,000 RPM

I have played the drums for a total of 60 seconds, but man are they fun.

But yea, most people do not have much rhythm
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Quote from: 565 on December 26, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
... Nissan needs to use these shocks on the GT-R.  It would be like the Incredible Hulk wielding Thor's hammer.... unstoppable.

12,000 RPM

None of those can fit an infant seat behind my wife. Plus,

http://5series.net/forums/attachments/e60-discussion-2/148337d1437692664-transmissions-interchangeable-so-you-just-bought-e60-v3.0-.pdf

Nothing bad is gonna happen if I get a Camry V6, besides me getting bored with it in about 2 yrs, which I'm already planning for.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: giant_mtb on January 05, 2017, 08:54:52 AM
As a drum player and person with a generally great sense of rhythm, listening to people honk three times to start a race makes me itch.  They're always like Honk...HonkHONK.  Not horribly fair.

It's almost as bad as listening to a crowd trying to clap to a beat and losing it after four claps.

Holy shit I know, and I can't even play the drums.
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Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 08, 2017, 03:40:01 PM
None of those can fit an infant seat behind my wife. Plus,

http://5series.net/forums/attachments/e60-discussion-2/148337d1437692664-transmissions-interchangeable-so-you-just-bought-e60-v3.0-.pdf

Nothing bad is gonna happen if I get a Camry V6, besides me getting bored with it in about 2 yrs, which I'm already planning for.

You think it'll take two years?
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Char

Quote from: Raza  on January 08, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
You think it'll take two years?

It does when he keeps inventing new excuses for not buying the better car in the first place.
Quote from: 565 on December 26, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
... Nissan needs to use these shocks on the GT-R.  It would be like the Incredible Hulk wielding Thor's hammer.... unstoppable.

12,000 RPM

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Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 09, 2017, 05:35:49 AM
I don't need a German car to be an interesting person.

No, you don't. You can even be an interesting person and own a Camry, I assume. But you can't have an interesting car to drive and have a Camry if the Camry is your only car. You'll be bored of it in six weeks, try to rationalize money-draining mods for another 12 weeks, then want out in 6 months.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

12,000 RPM

Quote from: Raza  on January 09, 2017, 07:18:02 AM
No, you don't. You can even be an interesting person and own a Camry, I assume. But you can't have an interesting car to drive and have a Camry if the Camry is your only car.
What constitutes an "interesting car to drive" and why do I need one? Also, I put about 5,000 miles on my motorcycle last year... does that not count?

Quote from: Raza  on January 09, 2017, 07:18:02 AMYou'll be bored of it in six weeks, try to rationalize money-draining mods for another 12 weeks, then want out in 6 months.
Want out for what? An Audi TT? :wtf:

As I've said before, no car short of something like an Ariel Atom is going to be as exciting as a motorcycle.... so with that precursor, why seek out driving excitement at all? Especially considering I get more than my fill of 4 wheel excitement via racing sims and karting?

All I want/need is a car that is
- RELIABLE
- practical
- cheap to operate
- quiet how I want (i.e. no road/tire/wind noise)
- roomy enough to allow my wife to sit in front of a child seat
- quick in a straight line and not a complete dog in the summer
- good looking + sounding

Being able to trigger automotive enthusiast fundamentalists like yourself is just icing on the cake. :evildude:

It's an iterative process. Z hit points 1, 6 & 7. Civic hits 1, 2, 3, 5ish and half of 7 IMO. Base Camry hits 1-6 easily; mods will complete 7 and give me a project which I enjoy. Plus I'm already planning on dumping this in 2 yrs.... it's just what I do, I don't think I'd be in a Raza approved car any longer :huh:
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MrH

I actually understand the want for the Camry.  But don't talk about doing Evora cam swaps :lol:  You're going to ruin what you want, which is a reliable, comfortable ride for cheap.

Essentially that's what the 4Runner is to me.  Second car/motorcycle makes more sense than trying to get everything you want in one gulp.

You should build an Exocet.
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