$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

Started by 12,000 RPM, September 04, 2016, 02:20:39 PM

What would you pick?

2012+ Civic Si
0 (0%)
Focus ST
5 (31.3%)
E90 335i
5 (31.3%)
G35/G37 6MT sedan
5 (31.3%)
Fuck it :huh: Built R18 + turbo kit + drive Demon Civic into a pile of ashes
1 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 16

Char

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 16, 2017, 11:11:40 AM
Can we just sum up this thread with "I want a Camry, and it'd be nice if I could justify it logically, but that's not really necessary?"

/thread.
Quote from: 565 on December 26, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
... Nissan needs to use these shocks on the GT-R.  It would be like the Incredible Hulk wielding Thor's hammer.... unstoppable.

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CaminoRacer

This is just funny because every Sporty thread is the same - people recommend a perfect car for the stated wants, then he insists on something that is a level below that so he can try to mod it up to the level of the car everyone recommended.
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12,000 RPM

This is rich coming from a dude who built an El Camino for autocross :wtf:

A Camry is a fine daily driver, which is all I want. "The perfect cars" people have suggested aren't any better at that basic task, nor do any of them look as good (IMO) as the Camry on coils.

I will do my due diligence and test drive some Gs when the time comes though.
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GoCougs

Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 17, 2017, 10:25:01 AM
This is just funny because every Sporty thread is the same - people recommend a perfect car for the stated wants, then he insists on something that is a level below that so he can try to mod it up to the level of the car everyone recommended.

Word - it's all about the drama. The Camry V6 is very good for what it is, and is more "enthusiast" than many cars, including some of those owned by 'SPINners, but there is no argument that the correct car in this situation is a G37 sedan. This Funny Business about mpg and baby seats is a dog that just don't hunt.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 10:37:11 AM
This is rich coming from a dude who built an El Camino for autocross :wtf:

A Camry is a fine daily driver, which is all I want. "The perfect cars" people have suggested aren't any better at that basic task, nor do any of them look as good (IMO) as the Camry on coils.

I will do my due diligence and test drive some Gs when the time comes though.

One thing being an aspiring Camry owner does not give one leave to do is to make fun actual cool cars.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 17, 2017, 10:54:45 AM
One thing being an aspiring Camry owner does not give one leave to do is to make fun actual cool cars.
I will, as I always have, say AND do what I want.
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Laconian

Econoline. Works for Mormons. Maybe you could slam it.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: Laconian on January 17, 2017, 11:02:57 AM
Econoline. Works for Mormons. Maybe you could slam it.

If you're gonna slam a van, it's gotta be one of those Dodges that people race in Japan
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FoMoJo

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Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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giant_mtb

The original poll list doesn't have Camry on it. Wtf r u all talking aboot.

BimmerM3

Quote from: GoCougs on January 17, 2017, 10:37:48 AM
Word - it's all about the drama. The Camry V6 is very good for what it is, and is more "enthusiast" than many cars, including some of those owned by 'SPINners, but there is no argument that the correct car in this situation is a G37 sedan. This Funny Business about mpg and baby seats is a dog that just don't hunt.

Yup, being different for the sake of being different.

The ironic thing is that, around here, being different means getting the most mainstream car possible. I don't even know how to describe it. Un-hipster? Anti-hipster? Meta-hipster?

Laconian

It's called "normcore", where hipsters are so hip that they pull a 360 and end up at their original rotation.
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Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 17, 2017, 02:52:33 PM
Yup, being different for the sake of being different.

The ironic thing is that, around here, being different means getting the most mainstream car possible. I don't even know how to describe it. Un-hipster? Anti-hipster? Meta-hipster?
Yep.... taking the uncool, and making it cool. Owning it. That's def part of it.
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12,000 RPM

All jokes aside, I did feel like a dbag walking up to the Z sometimes. I do prefer to keep a low profile. I don't want a car that says anything about me, which is part of why I kind of don't like German cars. I don't want to be "that guy".
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MrH

:huh:
So you car selection is largely determined by how you want people to view you?  You want to be seen as some sort of weird contrarian, so Camry on coilovers is the answer?  This thread is getting weirder and weirder every day :lol:
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 04:21:51 PM
All jokes aside, I did feel like a dbag walking up to the Z sometimes. I do prefer to keep a low profile. I don't want a car that says anything about me, which is part of why I kind of don't like German cars. I don't want to be "that guy".

Not wanting the Z because you think people will think you're a douche is just as bad as wanting the Z because you think people will think you're a super cool bro. Wanting a Camry is worse than either of those.
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Quote from: MrH on January 17, 2017, 04:22:20 PM
:huh:
So you car selection is largely determined by how you want people to view you?  You want to be seen as some sort of weird contrarian, so Camry on coilovers is the answer?  This thread is getting weirder and weirder every day :lol:
It's a factor, just as it is for everybody, regardless of how they try to spin it.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 04:44:16 PM
It's a factor, just as it is for everybody, regardless of how they try to spin it.

That much is true.

Car selection is very much ego and self image driven.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Cookie Monster

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 17, 2017, 04:52:36 PM
That much is true.

Car selection is very much ego and self image driven.

As long as a car isn't ugly it's not a big factor for me on how it looks. I drive a hair dresser's car. :huh:

Motorcycles, on the other hand, is like 110% ego driven for me. Part of the reason I got a liter bike is to say I ride one, and part of me is still kicking myself for not going all out with an R1, even though I know I'd hate riding it. :lol:
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 17, 2017, 04:54:57 PM
As long as a car isn't ugly it's not a big factor for me on how it looks. I drive a hair dresser's car. :huh:
Image goes beyond how a car's looks. It's also the image it presents of its owner .I would argue that disclosing the removal of P/S + A/C + sound deadening in a car that's not used in competition = caring about your car's image.
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 05:13:12 PM
Image goes beyond how a car's looks. It's also the image it presents of its owner .I would argue that disclosing the removal of P/S + A/C + sound deadening in a car that's not used in competition = caring about your car's image.

That's a stretch.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 17, 2017, 05:30:13 PM
That's a stretch.
How do you figure? What functional/performance based purpose does bragging about stripping a car out serve?

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Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 04:44:16 PM
It's a factor, just as it is for everybody, regardless of how they try to spin it.

I can't argue with that. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 05:35:53 PM
How do you figure? What functional/performance based purpose does bragging about stripping a car out serve?



Carpets were ripped already so I pulled them. Stereo/AC never was used so I pulled that out too.

Where did I "brag" about doing all this? In fact I think I probably said the opposite - that the car is effectively ruined as a street car and is worthless to sell. :huh:

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Soup DeVille

Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 17, 2017, 04:54:57 PM
As long as a car isn't ugly it's not a big factor for me on how it looks. I drive a hair dresser's car. :huh:

Motorcycles, on the other hand, is like 110% ego driven for me. Part of the reason I got a liter bike is to say I ride one, and part of me is still kicking myself for not going all out with an R1, even though I know I'd hate riding it. :lol:

The look doesn't have to be part of it though; and ignoring the look is part of it too. I may suddenly start sounding eggheady here, so bear with me. Ego, in its real meaning is about the outward projection of yourself. Driving a no-nonsense sports car is a perfect example of this. Ego need not be about what others think, but about what you think of yourself.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 17, 2017, 06:32:04 PM
Carpets were ripped already so I pulled them. Stereo/AC never was used so I pulled that out too.

Where did I "brag" about doing all this? In fact I think I probably said the opposite - that the car is effectively ruined as a street car and is worthless to sell. :huh:
Recently you did, but when you first did it you seemed proud from what I remember.

Even people who say they don't care about their cars image do care just by saying so and choosing a car that displays said lack of care.

I care. To me, this looks good. This is the image I want to give off.



No normal person is going to see this and say "wow look at that douchebag". And people in the know will probably chuckle and shake their heads. But to me this strikes the balance of looking good without shouting about it.
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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 04:21:51 PM
All jokes aside, I did feel like a dbag walking up to the Z sometimes. I do prefer to keep a low profile. I don't want a car that says anything about me, which is part of why I kind of don't like German cars. I don't want to be "that guy".
I wonder how I look walking up to a Yellow Vette? I'll tell you! HAPPY!!! Who gives a shit what some hater in a clapped out 10 year old Impala thinks....
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Raza

Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 17, 2017, 06:32:04 PM
Carpets were ripped already so I pulled them. Stereo/AC never was used so I pulled that out too.

Where did I "brag" about doing all this? In fact I think I probably said the opposite - that the car is effectively ruined as a street car and is worthless to sell. :huh:

Yeah, we bag on you all the time for making your car ricey and undrivable on the street.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.