$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

[12,000 RPM]

"Hey guys I want a roomy reliable car"

"How about a 20 year old 3 series?"

[Eye of the Tiger]

"Hey guys I want a roomy reliable car"

"How about a 20 year old 3 series?"

"$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD"

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/5966204915.html

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/5959654326.html

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/5964387498.html

[MX793]

"Hey guys I want a roomy reliable car"

"How about a 20 year old 3 series?"

By 20 year old German car standards, those are quite reliable.  Not like we're recommending 20 year old Jags.

[12,000 RPM]

By 20 year old German car standards, those are quite reliable.  Not like we're recommending 20 year old Jags.

20 yrs ago, various German marques had the bright idea to use biodegradable electric harnesses. No thx brah.

[SJ_GTI]

20 yrs ago, various German marques had the bright idea to use biodegradable electric harnesses. No thx brah.

Why does 12,000 RPM hate the environment?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Why does 12,000 RPM hate the environment?

Party lines. One must choose an issue on which to disagree with the party, so one can appear independent.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

"$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD"

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/5966204915.html

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/5959654326.html

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/5964387498.html

That Evo is nice!

[Eye of the Tiger]

That Evo is nice!

Super nice, and invisible kids can fit in the back.

[Raza]

Evos are plenty roomy.

[68_427]

Yeah that gen lancer isn't actually that bad interior wise

[Raza]

Yeah that gen lancer isn't actually that bad interior wise

I think the interior is bagged on relentlessly, but it's really not that awful:



The X is better, though:



Wait, wait.  This is reopening my desire for an Evo. 

[Raza]

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=19123&modelCode1=LANCEREVO&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D19123%26showcaseOwnerId%3D102543%26startYear%3D2008%26endYear%3D2017%26modelCodeList%3DLANCEREVO%26transmissionCode%3DMAN%26makeCodeList%3DMIT%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN%26modelCode1%3DLANCEREVO%26mmt%3D%255BMIT%255BLANCEREVO%255B%255D%255D%255B%255D%255D%26featureCodes%3D1132%26showcaseListingId%3D417081856%26makeCode1%3DMIT%26firstRecord%3D0%26searchRadius%3D0&showcaseOwnerId=102543&showcaseListingId=417081856&startYear=2008&numRecords=25&makeCode1=MIT&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&searchRadius=0&listingId=442763561&makeCode1=MIT&modelCode1=LANCEREVO

There's probably wiggle room there.  And Evo forums say baby seats fit just fine.

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7031

They say 2 babby fit.
http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-x-general/566820-2-baby-seats-back.html

But, fair play, the trunk can be tight.  But still, it's worth a look.  Evo X is as fun and sensible as a family car can get.  You can even get an automatic SST model if you want.

EDIT:
This link even has pictures!
https://www.cars.com/articles/2012/03/2012-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-car-seat-check/

This makes the idea of having kids more palatable to me (albeit only 1%, but it's nice to know that I would be able to drive my brother's kids around when he has them). 

[12,000 RPM]

EVO would be awful for me on many reasons. Louder than my Civic, worse interior, 4 banger engine note, abysmal gas mileage and AWD I moved out of NYC to avoid ever needing again. One of my childhood friends had a ~700WHP EVO.... all it was good for was going fast in a straight line and scaring passengers. No thx

I am coming around to the G again, just on the strength of cost. Only mods it would need are coilovers and pads/fluid/rotors. Still going to test as many different vehicles as possible but I'm open.

[Laconian]

Want my convertible? You can make it lighter by removing the PRHT guts!

[12,000 RPM]

O yea, I forgot you had that. Why the change to the Miata? What happened to IWTO?

This weekend I drove wife's car a lot as I was working on the Civic and we had to shuttle the dogs around. Rabbit's squishiness definitely slows me down. I think for my license's sake I need to at least consider a car that isn't fun to drive and doesn't goad me into finding every apex. That's the other issue.

[Rich]

Wasn't that the reason for 350Z -> Civic?

[Laconian]

O yea, I forgot you had that. Why the change to the Miata? What happened to IWTO?

With my husband working at Google, we carpool for most of our miles, and so I don't need a more utilitarian car (big trunk, four seats, etc.) I do still need a second car for when our schedules diverge. So, why not have a toy? It's the saner, less death-wishy version of me getting a motorcycle.

[12,000 RPM]

Wasn't that the reason for 350Z -> Civic?

Part of it. Civic is fun in its own ways though. I think the next step has to be something with an automatic transmission

[Cookie Monster]

So you're saying you can't own anything that is fun to drive at all because you can't handle yourself?

You ride a motorcycle that is far more fun + capable of exceeding any posted limits than your Civic, let alone anything else you can buy for $20k or less...

[12,000 RPM]

Yea but self preservation kicks in heavy on the bike. I can have fun without going completely ape shit. Just trying to kick bad habits behind the wheel.

[CaminoRacer]

Yea but self preservation kicks in heavy on the bike. I can have fun without going completely ape shit. Just trying to kick bad habits behind the wheel.

Sounds like you need an El Camino then. No overdrive so you won't speed on the highway as much. And you won't drive like a madman around town as much because you'll run out of gas before you get to work.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Yea but self preservation kicks in heavy on the bike. I can have fun without going completely ape shit. Just trying to kick bad habits behind the wheel.

Automatic V6 Camry will not help you kick bad habits. You will be doing 100 everywhere without realizing. You need a 1996 Ford Escort with an automatic ... and coilovers.

[CaminoRacer]

Or a Town Car on 24's. Preferably Forgiatos. And the paint job should reflect your favorite cereal or fast food brand.

[Rich]

Low and slow baby. 60s low rider impala.

You like something lowered and something to get you to just cruise in also. It has a bunch of room for kids too

[Cookie Monster]

Or.... LS400.

[MrH]

So you're saying you can't own anything that is fun to drive at all because you can't handle yourself?

You ride a motorcycle that is far more fun + capable of exceeding any posted limits than your Civic, let alone anything else you can buy for $20k or less...

You seriously think any of this is ever going to make any sense?

"I need a boring car so I don't get speeding tickets"
"It needs to run the quarter mile in the 14s"

[Eye of the Tiger]

Or a Town Car on 24's. Preferably Forgiatos. And the paint job should reflect your favorite cereal or fast food brand.

Or CANDY BARS

[Xer0]

With all of this new information rolling in, obviously the only correct choice is a Versa S.  Big and roomy for the baby seats, coils and sways away from being able to corner like a GTR, and slow to keep you from getting any tickets. 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Part of it. Civic is fun in its own ways though. I think the next step has to be something with an automatic transmission

CUT MY LEGS OFF AT THE KNEES AND CALL ME SHORTY!!!!!!!!!!

Low and slow baby. 60s low rider impala.

You like something lowered and something to get you to just cruise in also. It has a bunch of room for kids too

You seriously think any of this is ever going to make any sense?

"I need a boring car so I don't get speeding tickets"
"It needs to run the quarter mile in the 14s"

Just trying to kick bad habits behind the wheel.

WHEN YOU GET TIRED OF PAYING THOSE HIGH ASS INSURANCE RATES YOU'LL SLOW DOWN! But seriously no matter what you drive it's gonna bring the beast out of you! Even more so if you lower it and put fancy coil overs on it! Just buy a nice SPORTS sedan and drive it stock because when you do have kids all that extra money for Modding is gonna be GONE!!! 

[Tave]

Save until the kid arrives and buy a Canyon minidiesel w a big cab.