Madman and 2o6 are gonna bust copious nuts over my rental

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Sporty C4 Cactus 1080p video review coming soon. #WatchThisSpace #OooSheQuirky

[2o6]

Ooooo you got one!!!!!


I want one so bad! Even if the engines are super tiny and it prolly needs an extra 35HP for me to consider it.



What do you think?

[Rich]

The one I checked out at the dealer had a super cheap interior.  IIRC it didn't have a sun visor on the passenger side and some other content missing.  Probably the trim level...

Some oddly cool stuff like the shelf in the dash and a few other things I can't remember right now.  I think the cargo area had a few neat details.

[12,000 RPM]

So far not bad. Diesel engine is sweet on the highway, but the thing has no tach! Makes slow speed stuff unnerving. I'm gonna save the rest for the video as I think that would be more fun. Hopefully tomorow.

[Rich]

Hopefully you have equally interesting rentals for the other parts of your trip. 

Do a compare of the three in a video by splicing it together

[2o6]

The one I checked out at the dealer had a super cheap interior.  IIRC it didn't have a sun visor on the passenger side and some other content missing.  Probably the trim level...

Some oddly cool stuff like the shelf in the dash and a few other things I can't remember right now.  I think the cargo area had a few neat details.

Cactus is the "budget" line of Citroen.

[MrH]

Please put some of your beats as background music in this video.  I really want to hear the sporty accord mixtape.

[cawimmer430]

Which diesel engine are you experiencing?

[Laconian]

Is this RHD?

[Laconian]

Cactus is the "budget" line of Citroen.

Yeah. It's so awesome looking for being an economy car.

[12,000 RPM]

Is this RHD?

It is.... driving in the UK is actually kind of stressing me out, and part of it is due to the C4. I will explain more in the video. It's probably gonna be Friday though, gotta gather my thoughts.

[Rich]

If it's a manual, have you been slapping the door panel with your hand?

[68_427]

Damn I can't wait for this.  The Cactus is one of the coolest cars on earth.

Can you punch the airpods

[12,000 RPM]

If it's a manual, have you been slapping the door panel with your hand?

Oh god yes, only when I park though.

[Galaxy]

Everytime I see a Cactus park, I poke at the air pockets. Granted there are not that many, at least not here.

[12,000 RPM]

I haven't seen any on the road outside of my rental

I have a bullet list of the good, the bad and the weird... This will be fun

[12,000 RPM]

I did the vid but here are my bullet points:

Good
 interior and exterior design
Diesel torque
Fuel economy
Infotainment equipment
Touch point quality
Headlight out put an ad just ability
Trunk space
Seat Comfort

Not good
Diesel sound
Small back seat
Shallow front foot wells
Awkward pedal placement
Bad visibility- high front cowl
Lack of storage space- glove box, cupholders, door pockets, no center console
Shifter- elbow/console interference, hard to find second
Bluetooth reception
Slow infotainment system
Weak stereo

Just weird
Digital dash but no tach
Starts without clutch in gear
Fixed rear windows, no rear HVAC
Wind up seatback like 81 Rabbit Diesel
Driver's side mirror doesn't go wide enough
What is it? Hatchback? Crossover? Seems to combine worst of both

Overall looks good on the surface and has some little charms, but is no better, especially for the US market, than anything I've driven. The Fit rental I had recently for example blows this out of the water in visibility, performance, back seat space and around the cabin storage. Video is 20 minutes long as well, just one long take. I will try and get it up tonighht so prob tomorrow for you guys

[2o6]

I did the vid but here are my bullet points:


Just weird
Digital dash but no tach
Starts without clutch in gear
Clutch Interlock is an American thing.
Fixed rear windows, no rear HVAC
To keep costs low. Remember, this thing is actually Ford Focus sized, but priced like a Fiesta
Wind up seatback like 81 Rabbit Diesel
Que? Lots of cheap cars have this.
Driver's side mirror doesn't go wide enough
What is it? Hatchback? Crossover? Seems to combine worst of both

Overall looks good on the surface and has some little charms, but is no better, especially for the US market, than anything I've driven. The Fit rental I had recently for example blows this out of the water in visibility, performance, back seat space and around the cabin storage. Video is 20 minutes long as well, just one long take. I will try and get it up tonighht so prob tomorrow for you guys

Eh, I think that with a better engine, (a nice gas one) can fix a lot of things.

Yea, the Cactus is the "budget" line of Citroen - if you want something nicer and more sophisticated you're supposed to buy a C4. The Cactus offers compact car size with subcompact pricing, and focus on design.

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IDK brah... so basically a C segment car for B segment pricing? Or B segment car for A segment pricing? It has to be the latter. If so it makes more sense but I'd rather pay the extra 1K or whatever for a full on B segment car. Plus again the Fit rental I had was much more roomy and practical.... I think it had a D segment size interior front and back (length wise, def narrower)

I'm gonna try and upload the video tonight

[2o6]

Eh, the fit's an anomaly. The Fit beats out a lot of compact cars, and some midsizers in terms of legroom.

[ifcar]

Eh, the fit's an anomaly. The Fit beats out a lot of compact cars, and some midsizers in terms of legroom.

The best-selling subcompact car has just as much room: the Nissan Versa. So does the No. 2, the Kia Soul.

[Rich]

Starts without clutch in gear

It's a UK/Euro thing

Miata shop sent a message saying my car was dead.  They asked if there was anything special since there were no mechanical issues with the car otherwise.

I called them back later and told them the steps to start it and both they and myself were surprised about the clutch being depressed as the culprit.  I didn't know that euro cars could start without the clutch in.

[CaminoRacer]

My dad's VW will start with the clutch engaged. Scared the piss out of me once when I forgot to press it while it was in gear. I thought the switch had just been removed, but maybe it never had one.

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Eh, the fit's an anomaly. The Fit beats out a lot of compact cars, and some midsizers in terms of legroom.

Citroen needs to step its game up then. Sales wise Fit/Versa/Soul and I think even your Sonic are the rule, not the exception.

[2o6]

Citroen needs to step its game up then. Sales wise Fit/Versa/Soul and I think even your Sonic are the rule, not the exception.

They have a Fit competitor.

The C3 Picasso.



and a "regular" hatchback - the C3.




The Fit is an anomaly because it's a "tall hatchback" marketed as a normal one. The Tall B-MPV's, Europe has tons of them.

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Huh.... I learned something today. Welp, I think B-MPVs make the regular Bs irrelevant and this thing kind of proves that. Anyways here is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpTDhjnLD_U

[BimmerM3]

The best-selling subcompact car has just as much room: the Nissan Versa. So does the No. 2, the Kia Soul.

I didn't even realize that the Soul was considered a subcompact. And yeah, I think there's some sorcery involved in making the Versa. The interior seems impossibly large compared to the exterior.

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A small footprint can yield a ton of interior volume when the seating position resembles that of a dining chair at Thanksgiving dinner

Jack Baruth wisely said that straight up back and shin seating position is the easiest giveaway of a cheap car, which is how he wrote off the CLA. I don't mind so much but it's true- a reclined, legs out seating position for front and rear passengers is probably one of the last true demonstrators of luxury.

[2o6]

A small footprint can yield a ton of interior volume when the seating position resembles that of a dining chair at Thanksgiving dinner

Jack Baruth wisely said that straight up back and shin seating position is the easiest giveaway of a cheap car, which is how he wrote off the CLA. I don't mind so much but it's true- a reclined, legs out seating position for front and rear passengers is probably one of the last true demonstrators of luxury.

That is TOTAL horseshit.


More upright seating positions are a result of improved ergonomics as well as the SUV craze where everyone wants to sit up high.

[Raza]

It's a UK/Euro thing

Miata shop sent a message saying my car was dead.  They asked if there was anything special since there were no mechanical issues with the car otherwise.

I called them back later and told them the steps to start it and both they and myself were surprised about the clutch being depressed as the culprit.  I didn't know that euro cars could start without the clutch in.

Really? I thought that was universal.