I know I'm crazy but am I off with this?

[12,000 RPM]

I'd bet it's infotainment related. I'm subscribed. I will investigate tomorrow

[MX793]

I'd bet it's infotainment related. I'm subscribed. I will investigate tomorrow

I question how many of the issues are QC complaints versus actual reliability issues.  Fiesta and Focus had issues with the PowerShift DSG automatic gearbox, and that is likely why they are on the shit list.

I spend a fair bit of time on the Mustang boards and can't say I've noticed any significant trends of poor reliability.  A lot of complaints for cosmetic QC issues, though.  Poor panel alignment (trunk and hood) seems to be the biggest complaint, particularly on 2015s.  Brake squeal (particularly on PP cars) is another big one.  Rattles from the headlight switch (2015s) and clunks from the driveline (irritating but normal for the gearbox used, previous generation was the same).  Also complaints about the leather being easy to stretch or tear.  None of these affect reliability.

[12,000 RPM]

Yep, looking at the reliability breakdown I'm seeing mostly green, with the only reds being the transmission (probably stemming from knee jerk reactions to the ZF9, and which improved for 2016) and audio controls. Literally everything else is better or much better than average. CR is being a little clickbaity IMO.

[CaminoRacer]

Brake squeal just means its working.

[RomanChariot]

I like the large SUV class. The Suburban/Yukon XL came in 2nd and the Expedition came in next to last. I mean are there more than 2 vehicles in that class.

Also, 8 out of 14 classes have a footnote on the leading car that it was based on 1 year of data rather than the standard 3. If 3 is the standard shouldn't the majority of vehicles follow the standard. It looks like a good way to be in first place is to have a new model without much data.

[giant_mtb]

I honestly didn't know they were still making new Expeditions. 

[TBR]

Well seems that they are really sticking with this stupid new grill:

[12,000 RPM]

The adoption of LED headlights has pushed us past the event horizon of the full width grill. Next crop of cars will extend the grill to the wheel arches. Fret not though, the cooling aperture will be about 10in², with the rest reserved for radar

[Cookie Monster]

Yikes, that grille looks horrible.

[2o6]

Acura sucks

[giant_mtb]

What does Acura sell, like 150,000 cars a year?

[CALL_911]

Wow that looks terrible.

At least Honda's doing good things- I'm a fan of the new Civic and CRV

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Acura sucks

+1

[93JC]

The adoption of LED headlights has pushed us past the event horizon of the full width grill. Next crop of cars will extend the grill to the wheel arches. Fret not though, the cooling aperture will be about 10in², with the rest reserved for radar

I wonder if the one thing Tesla might actually influence other carmakers to do, in the interest of aerodynamics/fuel efficiency, is to minimize the size of the grille.

We've been moving in the complete opposite direction for the last 15 years or so with the grille outlines becoming bigger and bigger, while actually free area goes down and active shutters and other such measures are being added for the sake of making the cars more aerodynamics. A lot of new cars' faces are full of inactive areas and blank-offs! When do we reach a point where someone—other than Tesla—says "Enough's enough!" and creates something akin to the '86 Ford Taurus?

This Acura grille just doesn't suit the car at all; Toyota/Lexus have gone "full retard". We're never going to see low hoodlines like we had in the '80s ever again, too much hubbub about pedestrian safety, but I wonder what the designers might come up with if someone told them: make me something with no grille.

[Laconian]

The Acura grilles need to be large to accommodate the dinner plate sized Acura badges.

LOOK AT ME

THIRD TIER LUXURY BOYEEEE

[93JC]

Yeah, I don't think I'd mind the grille so much if it wasn't for the yuge, out of proportion badge in the middle.

[Xer0]

I don't think the grill works because its very obviously just pasted on this car and nothing else has really changed.  The precision concept that this is taken from looked fantastic, imo, and the updated MDX looks decent.  I expect an Acura designed from the ground up with this language will look pretty decent.

Now, if they can actually make the car more than a fancy Accord is another story.  Acura's model release schedule is so strange that by the time a new product comes out, the next generation Honda product that its based on comes out like a year later and pretty much does the same exact stuff for 5/10k less.  The 10th gen Civic made the ILX pointless and a new Accord is right around the corner.

[FoMoJo]

They managed to make it 'cheaper' looking than a KIA.

[SJ_GTI]

I mean, that Acura doesn't look particularly good but its not that bad IMHO.

I wonder if the one thing Tesla might actually influence other carmakers to do, in the interest of aerodynamics/fuel efficiency, is to minimize the size of the grille.

We've been moving in the complete opposite direction for the last 15 years or so with the grille outlines becoming bigger and bigger, while actually free area goes down and active shutters and other such measures are being added for the sake of making the cars more aerodynamics. A lot of new cars' faces are full of inactive areas and blank-offs! When do we reach a point where someone—other than Tesla—says "Enough's enough!" and creates something akin to the '86 Ford Taurus?

This Acura grille just doesn't suit the car at all; Toyota/Lexus have gone "full retard". We're never going to see low hoodlines like we had in the '80s ever again, too much hubbub about pedestrian safety, but I wonder what the designers might come up with if someone told them: make me something with no grille.

Yeah I kind of liked the way the Model 3 looked without a grill.

[93JC]

The Model S never had an active grille in the first place, they just created an inactive one because they thought it would look weird without something there. Newer Model Ses made in the last year or so don't have one:

[Laconian]

They could at least paint it piano black or something...