Proximo GT3 confirmado Manuel

[MrH]

Ok, sporty went off the handles bars on this argument again.  I no longer support his hot take

[SVT_Power]

Hell, Rag's car is barely street legal at this point and he still enjoys it at like 2/10ths. 

Does he though?

[giant_mtb]

I don't think so. You have to drive something like a GT3 way harder than you would have to ride a bike to have the same amount of fun. Plus with the bike if you ride like a dumbass you're much less likely to kill somebody besides yourself

That really depends on one's definition of "fun."  For you, "fun" seems to mean being at the very limit of the vehicle's capability. 

Are you saying that, if you had this Porsche, you'd never be having any fun in it unless you were at the limit of its capabilities?  That's insane, man. 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

That really depends on one's definition of "fun."  For you, "fun" seems to mean being at the very limit of the vehicle's capability. 

Are you saying that, if you had this Porsche, you'd never be having any fun in it unless you were at the limit of its capabilities?  That's insane, man. 

He has stated that he's spun cars on Public roads with the TC turn ON!!!! He's a wild dude!

[MX793]

Does he though?

So much that he opts to commute on a dirtbike.

[Xer0]

So much that he opts to commute on a dirtbike.

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[Cookie Monster]

Does he though?

Here's the thing - if it's just driving for fun, I still love it. Xer0 is right, in the twisties, even not pushing it, it's fun to just row the gears, heel-toe into corners, listen to the exhaust, etc. I just don't like driving in traffic anymore, and that's not limited to my car. Even with the most comfortable car, if I'm still driving it and am still stuck in traffic, I'll end up hating it.

So much that he opts to commute on a dirtbike.

1. WR is gone.

2. I don't live in the wrong part of the country and can actually lane split and ride year round and save a substantial amount of time on my commute. Oh, and save on parking, too.

[12,000 RPM]

That really depends on one's definition of "fun."  For you, "fun" seems to mean being at the very limit of the vehicle's capability. 

Are you saying that, if you had this Porsche, you'd never be having any fun in it unless you were at the limit of its capabilities?  That's insane, man.

I have a whippet/Jack Russell mix. She gallops through our backyard like a deer. She is so fast, sometimes it's hard to believe. I liken having a GT3 on the street, to having her in a NYC apartment. OK, maybe every now and then, when I have the time, and the weather is good, and the moon is in the right part of its cycle, I can take her to the park and let her run loose. But for the other 350 days a year, we're both miserable. Everything is best in its natural environment. The street is not the natural environment for a track car... especially with 500, 600, 700 HP.

[12,000 RPM]

Commuting by bike in Cali is the best way to commute by far. I am in support of that.

[CaminoRacer]

2. I don't live in the wrong part of the country and can actually lane split and ride year round and save a substantial amount of time on my commute. Oh, and save on parking, too.

Sounds like you live in the wrong part of the country if a long commute and parking are big worries.

[CaminoRacer]

I have a whippet/Jack Russell mix. She gallops through our backyard like a deer. She is so fast, sometimes it's hard to believe. I liken having a GT3 on the street, to having her in a NYC apartment. OK, maybe every now and then, when I have the time, and the weather is good, and the moon is in the right part of its cycle, I can take her to the park and let her run loose. But for the other 350 days a year, we're both miserable. Everything is best in its natural environment. The street is not the natural environment for a track car... especially with 500, 600, 700 HP.

Have you driven a 500+ hp car on the street?

[12,000 RPM]

Have you driven a 500+ hp car on the street?

Yes, several

[CaminoRacer]

What?

[giant_mtb]

I have a whippet/Jack Russell mix. She gallops through our backyard like a deer. She is so fast, sometimes it's hard to believe. I liken having a GT3 on the street, to having her in a NYC apartment. OK, maybe every now and then, when I have the time, and the weather is good, and the moon is in the right part of its cycle, I can take her to the park and let her run loose. But for the other 350 days a year, we're both miserable. Everything is best in its natural environment. The street is not the natural environment for a track car... especially with 500, 600, 700 HP.

Because you track your bike so often...?

[MX793]

Sounds like you live in the wrong part of the country if a long commute and parking are big worries.

Or traffic so bad that lane splitting shaves a lot of time off your commute.

[12,000 RPM]

Because you track your bike so often...?

I explained why bikes don't have to be pushed as hard as cars for the same enjoyment.

[giant_mtb]

I explained why bikes don't have to be pushed as hard as cars for the same enjoyment for me personally.

There, I fixed it.  You do realize this is a totally subjective topic, right? 

Are you saying that, if you had this Porsche, you'd never be having any fun in it unless you were at the limit of its capabilities?

Yes or no?  Or do I get another dog analogy instead?

[Cookie Monster]

Sounds like you live in the wrong part of the country if a long commute and parking are big worries.

Or traffic so bad that lane splitting shaves a lot of time off your commute.

Sorry I don't want to live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere.

Any big metropolitan area is going to have shitty-enough traffic to warrant lane splitting. And let's not try to pretend that lane splitting doesn't have other advantages (keeps you/your bike cooler, less/no risk of getting rear ended, etc).

[MX793]

Sorry I don't want to live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere.

Any big metropolitan area is going to have shitty-enough traffic to warrant lane splitting. And let's not try to pretend that lane splitting doesn't have other advantages (keeps you/your bike cooler, less/no risk of getting rear ended, etc).

Not living in or next to a megatropolis doesn't mean you live in the middle of nowhere.  I've been to the middle of nowhere, and I wouldn't want to live there either.  I also have no desire to live a dense urban traffic hell like NYC, Boston, Atlanta, or LA.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Not living in or next to a megatropolis doesn't mean you live in the middle of nowhere.  I've been to the middle of nowhere, and I wouldn't want to live there either.  I also have no desire to live a dense urban traffic hell like NYC, Boston, Atlanta, or LA.

Traffic (barring a rush hour crash) here in Cleveland is pretty damn good for a major metropolis!

[Cookie Monster]

I mean, I'm not even commuting into SF anymore (I work in San Jose now) and traffic really isn't that bad at all, but even some simple construction or an accident (which can happen anywhere) can add 20-30 min to a commute by car, whereas it barely affects the time it takes on a bike.

Last week when it was pouring for a week straight, the terrible infrastructure around here couldn't handle it and roads started flooding and mudslides took out some highways, and traffic got jammed to a stand still everywhere else. I didn't have a problem because I just split straight through that stuff anyways.


Also, on an unrelated note, my work hours this week have been so hellish I could just drive anyways since I end up leaving work at 9-10 PM and there's no traffic. I still ride to save the $7 for parking though.

[12,000 RPM]

Medium sized cities are best. I love my commute. If the highway is jammed up I have 3-4 alternative routes which only add another ~10-15 minutes to a 35 minute trip. As long as I'm moving I'm good.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Medium sized cities are best. I love my commute. If the highway is jammed up I have 3-4 alternative routes which only add another ~10-15 minutes to a 35 minute trip. As long as I'm moving I'm good.

I'm the same way! I'll drive 5 minutes out the way as long as I'm not sitting still!

[CaminoRacer]

Medium sized cities are best. I love my commute. If the highway is jammed up I have 3-4 alternative routes which only add another ~10-15 minutes to a 35 minute trip. As long as I'm moving I'm good.

+1

Charlotte, Cincinnati, Columbus, Nashville, etc. Are all attractive sized cities to me. Enough people to be interesting, but not enough to be annoying.

[68_427]

Is this the greatest car ever?  I honestly can't tell you which transmission I'd choose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uZXuHEXYpc

[r0tor]

Hoping this kills 997 GT3 prices

[MexicoCityM3]

Hoping this kills 997 GT3 prices

I'd love any GT3 from 996 to this one.

[68_427]

I have a real soft spot for the 996.2 GT3

[12,000 RPM]

I'd be happy with a 997 C2S

[SVT_Power]

I have a real soft spot for the 996.2 GT3

996.2 Turbo for me. I'm hoping there will still be clean cheap examples available when I can afford one