Tesla

[Laconian]

My parents' neighbor got a job doing IT for SpaceX. My parents said that he went from happy to harried to burned-out in about eight months.

Technical debt is soul crushing for engineers. The interest payments have a tendency to compound.

[MrH]

My parents' neighbor got a job doing IT for SpaceX. My parents said that he went from happy to harried to burned-out in about eight months.

Technical debt is soul crushing for engineers. The interest payments have a tendency to compound.

The pace Tesla ripped through supply chain people was incredible.  Every few months I had a new contact there   Turns out trying to plan thousands of SKUs via spreadsheet is not sustainable.

[Laconian]

The pace Tesla ripped through supply chain people was incredible.  Every few months I had a new contact there   Turns out trying to plan thousands of SKUs via spreadsheet is not sustainable.

I'd love to see what that spreadsheet looks like at this point. It must be pretty unholy.

[MrH]

I'd love to see what that spreadsheet looks like at this point. It must be pretty unholy.

Each planner was maintaining their own back in the day. Who knows what it's like now.  They were using Jira tickets for everything according to the leak to the German newspaper.  Deliveries numbers are being compiled via emailing spreadsheets + Jira tickets.  It's a mess.

Btw, the warranty reserve & goodwill accounting fraud?  I mentioned it back in 2020 on here

They don't make massive profits...

They would sustain themselves on their own cash flow if that were the case.  There is clear evidence of pumping gross margin numbers.  There are multiple whistleblower cases going on about this exact thing.

[CaminoRacer]

Remember Tesla saying an SAP implementation of 6 months was too long, and decided to build their own ERP system from scratch instead?  Run a $500B+ business off Jira tickets, Excel, and a broken home-made ERP system with no controls.

wow wtf

[MrH]

Also, the part of the article talking about reclassifying scrap material as engineering test material instead, to further juice gross margins?

That was all known back in 2019.  There was another whistle blower Tesla employee that uncovered it. Martin Tripp.  Elon swatted him.  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-tesla-whistleblower-martin-tripp#xj4y7vzkg

wow wtf

You guys all acted like I was crazy for years.  This shit is all going to come to light.

[GoCougs]

Totally shocking.  It's almost as if the CEO's incentives were based on gross margin.  Weird how that works.

Remember Tesla saying an SAP implementation of 6 months was too long, and decided to build their own ERP system from scratch instead?  Run a $500B+ business off Jira tickets, Excel, and a broken home-made ERP system with no controls.  Put a sociopath at helm with an unprecedented incentive package.  What could possibly go wrong?

Many MANY big corporations run this way.

[Eye of the Tiger]

When is it all going to come crashing down?

[giant_mtb]

When is it all going to come crashing down?

Probably never. Because Elon is a "visionary genius" that can do no wrong.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Probably never. Because Elon is a "visionary genius" that can do no wrong.

I can't wait for him to die on Mars

[AutobahnSHO]

[GoCougs]

Probably never. Because Elon is a "visionary genius" that can do no wrong.

Without Tesla, the EV industry literally does not exist. Imagine all that is wrapped up in it - what Musk is allowed to get away with is just the start of it.

[Laconian]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-08/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars/102202382

Scrappy companies cut corners

[giant_mtb]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-08/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars/102202382

Scrappy companies cut corners

"Tesla states in its online Customer Privacy Notice that its 'camera recordings remain anonymous and are not linked to you or your vehicle.'"

LOL Not a chance.

[Laconian]

Building privacy and security compliant systems is a huge pain in the ass and an impediment to shipping things quickly.

[MrH]

Now imagine: they also do this with every aspect of vehicle design, validation, manufacturing, etc

It's not a car I would like to own.

[Laconian]

Sanded or dirt roads can void your HV pack warranty. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/driving-on-sanded-dirt-road-voids-hv-battery-warranty.313621/

I hope Kia doesn't do this...

[giant_mtb]

Sanded or dirt roads can void your HV pack warranty. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/driving-on-sanded-dirt-road-voids-hv-battery-warranty.313621/

I hope Kia doesn't do this...

Reason #429 that EVs are retarded in rural/cold climates.

I'd be completely screwed. I drive on dirt roads all the time, and of course on sanded roads in the winter. That's cause for voiding my warranty? Fuck outta here with that.

Tesla and Elon are made of more garbage than my county's landfill.

[Laconian]

The question is if it's an EV problem or a Tesla problem.

[Laconian]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/elon-musk-tesla-cybertruck-will-be-able-serve-briefly-boat

Don't think this will happen

[giant_mtb]

The question is if it's an EV problem or a Tesla problem.

My guess is a Tesla problem.

[Morris Minor]

Motor Trend's thoughts on the Highland Model 3.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-tesla-model-3-highland-first-drive-review/

[Madman]

 

[Laconian]

A friend of mine who is a security researcher by day and a SCUBA instructor by night posted this...

I know the lane he is describing very well. Here it is in Street View. FSD mindlessly recentered itself in a merging lane which caused it to abruptly change direction into the left lanes.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/38nMdSamF25GTJJNA



This is going to be really interesting:

https://lnkd.in/gxdhwKYB.

I no longer have a Tesla. I was considering whether to keep it as a second car when I upgraded to a Rivian, but about two weeks before I took delivery of the Rivian, my 2022 Model Y tried to kill me and I decided not to keep it.

My vehicle had the Full Self Driving (FSD) "beta". I was coming from I-405 northbound in Bellevue, and merging onto Hwy 520 eastbound. If you know the place you will know that the merge lane splits into an exit lane and one lane that becomes the carpool lane. This means the lane gets wider right before it splits into two. The FSD software is programmed to center itself in the lane, not to follow any map guidance or logic, and that's what the car did. It was now heading straight toward the crash barrier at 60 mph. Fortunately, unlike the gentleman that was killed in 2018 when his Tesla did exactly the same thing, I was not playing a video game at the time, but was able to divert the car into the correct position and avoid the crash, but the lane splits so fast, and the car's movements were so sudden, I had, maybe 60 feet to react. If you do the math, that means I had less than a second to react before the car plowed straight into the barrier.

I know lots of people who still drive Teslas. I'd strongly suggest that you stay *extremely* alert when you use the driver assistance software. FSD is miles away from being ready to do anything at all unsupervised and, while Tesla has known about this lane centering problem for many years, it has done nothing about it.

Curiously, neither of my current cars' driver assistance software behaves in this way. They use more input than visual analysis of a short distance in front of the vehicle.

[Morris Minor]

I hear from people who treat it like a teen driver: love it but keep a close eye on it. And then stories like this. AFAIK FSD does use Google Maps for route & lane planning - Christ knows what happened here. Hopefully he tagged & reported it.

One day someone will crack the problem.

[MrH]

What's the point of having a driver aid that you "drives for you", but you need to hover over it every second and correct instantly it does something stupid?  An overpromised level 2 system is by far the most dangerous way to go about this.

[Laconian]

I hear from people who treat it like a teen driver: love it but keep a close eye on it. And then stories like this. AFAIK FSD does use Google Maps for route & lane planning - Christ knows what happened here. Hopefully he tagged & reported it.

One day someone will crack the problem.

How many times has Elon said FSD is being written from scratch? V12 is now supposedly entirely different, using AI instead of hard coded rules.

One thing about engineering is that you'll never get to addressing the long tail of quality issues if you keep starting from scratch. You only get to six sigma from deliberate and painstaking process and change management. Not compatible with chucking it all overboard

[MrH]

How many times has Elon said FSD is being written from scratch? V12 is now supposedly entirely different, using AI instead of hard coded rules.

One thing about engineering is that you'll never get to addressing the long tail of quality issues if you keep starting from scratch. You only get to six sigma from deliberate and painstaking process and change management. Not compatible with chucking it all overboard

The reality is, they've gone about this whole thing wrong.  They will never get to even Level 3 autonomy.  And they've sold level 5 autonomy already.  There's a reason why no one else in the industry is chasing level 5 autonomy using vision only.

[Laconian]

I wouldn't even chase level 5 without a full scale rethink of our roads and signals...

[Eye of the Tiger]

I have level 9