Tesla

[565]

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-tesla-model-y-long-range-first-test-review/

Kinda sums up of what I think too.  Despite all the hate, it's really good. 

[Morris Minor]

If (big "if" - run it through the Elon denoise machine) what he's said about FSD 12 alpha is true, that would be quite something... brooming the the old code: heuristics, labels et al.

[MrH]

If (big "if" - run it through the Elon denoise machine) what he's said about FSD 12 alpha is true, that would be quite something... brooming the the old code: heuristics, labels et al.

The guy lies to you for 7 years straight about robotaxis, and you're still lapping it up...

[Morris Minor]

Another interesting thing was Musk saying only 5% of people stop at stop signs.  Elluswamy: "Um no, it's actually 0.5%."

NHTSA forced the issue so Tesla had to go out & mine the tiny fraction of the fleet for that aberrance then train up on that. This is why FSD beta actually comes to a stop at stop signs and elicits rage, honking & headlight flashing from behind.

New law: Stop signs will remain legal but for every ten under their purview, traffic engineers must do a month of jail time.

[Laconian]

Californians run stop signs all the time. The percentage of violators is higher than 5% there.

[Laconian]

The guy lies to you for 7 years straight about robotaxis, and you're still lapping it up...

Also - it is not a good quality sign that a company is constantly trashing its code and starting from scratch. A lot of insidious, embarrassing bugs only get chased out over long periods of focused refinement. Throwing away old codebases means discarding a whole host of hard-won and cryptic learned lessons.

[CaminoRacer]

I just want Tesla motors and battery in a '56 Buick.

Should I buy a RWD Model 3, drive it for a couple of years, and then swap the drivetrain into a classic car?

[Morris Minor]

Californians run stop signs all the time. The percentage of violators is higher than 5% there.

Yup as in 99.5%. If you are unlucky enough to come across the 0.5%, they are old people in Lexus RX350s. As well as actually coming to a full halt at deserted stop sign intersections, they prefer to drive 5 mph below the limit. They like to randomly brake, and especially favor braking before going up a hill, especially if it's on a curve. They will have long conga line of angry drivers stuck behind them.

[FoMoJo]

I just want Tesla motors and battery in a '56 Buick.

Should I buy a RWD Model 3, drive it for a couple of years, and then swap the drivetrain into a classic car?

Good plan.

[AutobahnSHO]

At my last office I saw a magazine laying around- the entire thing is dedicated to electrifying older cars.  I don't remember the name.

[Laconian]

https://www.recurrentauto.com/news/real-world-range-for-tesla

[CaminoRacer]

Bolt the most accurate

[r0tor]

This actual vs EPA range thing just seems like an avenue to vent hidden range anxiety.  The EPA estimate is no different then in ICE cars - just a controlled test with parameters that almost never reflect the real world

[AutobahnSHO]

Right?...

But then it's like VWgate- how much is Tesla or others gaming the system to make the disparity between test and real world more excessive?....

[r0tor]

Right?...

But then it's like VWgate- how much is Tesla or others gaming the system to make the disparity between test and real world more excessive?....

There's no alternate tune that can be put in an EV though.

[AutobahnSHO]

There's no alternate tune that can be put in an EV though.

Of course there is- or Teslas wouldn't have different "driving modes"...

OEM can tweak how much power goes to environment, lights, etc... and cooling the batteries, more/less regen, lots of variables.

[r0tor]

Of course there is- or Teslas wouldn't have different "driving modes"...

OEM can tweak how much power goes to environment, lights, etc... and cooling the batteries, more/less regen, lots of variables.

You need to hit speed setpoints at certain intervals.  Not sure what you can do on an EV to cheat it.  There is no equivalent of air fuel ratios, cherry picking more efficient engines, screwing with emissions equipment, ect... every tester just uses the gas pedal as sparing as possible with the most regen as possible

[Morris Minor]

Completely unverified, take with pinch of salt, but allegedly from a press kit that was sent to media in China that found their way online.
Updated Model 3. Nose & ass job, more interesting to see if anything's changed underneath.

[r0tor]

Looks as soulless as an EV should

[CaminoRacer]

I think the current design looks better

[Morris Minor]

Quieter & a less flinty ride seem to be the main goodies. 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44969644/2024-tesla-model-3-specs-details/

[afty]

My kids would love the new screen for the back seat.

[CaminoRacer]

I'd rather not have the screen for kids, but I'm a mean person and would be telling them to look out the window like I did as a kid.

Getting rid of the stalks is also a negative for me.

The supposed range increase (mentioned elsewhere but not the C&D article) due to improved aero is cool if true. And the sound insulation is always appreciated.

[Morris Minor]

One change is that they all now have LFP batteries. The lack of column stalks & the bit of wood on the dash is annoying.

But I'd say it's a decent mid-cycle refresh that'll bump up sales, particularly in markets where sedans are more popular than in the USA, where SUVs are de rigueur.

[Morris Minor]

Nearly a year old but the article hinted they were moving beyond mass attempts at labeling everything possible: I think they're now deemphasizing that even more.  IEEE article, easy read, short, pdf: "The Radical Scope of Tesla's Data Hoard"
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=9915627

OT: to get a general idea of the kind of stuff getting people excited these days, look at this: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/popular/all
Hold on to your Nvidia stock.

[MrH]

Just totally normal things.

https://archive.ph/hZxv1

[Laconian]

There are more preproduction Cybertrucks roaming around in the wild.

[Eye of the Tiger]

fugly

[CaminoRacer]

I just don't understand it.

[Laconian]

Neither do I. It looks like a metal shop project.