Sporty G37 thread

[12,000 RPM]

I just realized, we have been back since 4/27 and I haven't commuted in the G yet

We gotta get this Rabbit fixed and get my damn Civic sold

[BimmerM3]

I just realized, we have been back since 4/27 and I haven't commuted in the G yet

We gotta get this Rabbit fixed and get my damn Civic sold

Has waifu been co-opting the G?

[12,000 RPM]

Has waifu been co-opting the G?

Yes... I'm at the collision shop now getting her rental

[12,000 RPM]

Welp. I think I'm sold on which coilovers I'm getting. Cheap Chinese crap my ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT3Ei28I7s4

[68_427]

My powdercoater has recently started building custom coilovers.  I forgot to ask where they get their parts though.

[Cookie Monster]

Most custom coilovers use the same Chinese/Taiwanese parts and just do custom valving. I'm going with Feals next.

[68_427]

I want new sway bars but damn whiteline shit is expensive.

[12,000 RPM]

Posted in the wrong thread

Like I said getting the tire pressure right has fixed the understeer issue. This thing is still scary in the rain. A lot like the Z. Very vague at the wheel and the rear end does not seem tied down at all, even in fast sweepers. Still going to attack the suspension before the tires though... hopefully more camber will make things better. Taking an interesting approach with the suspension but I will keep that under wraps.

[SJ_GTI]

Posted in the wrong thread

Like I said getting the tire pressure right has fixed the understeer issue. This thing is still scary in the rain. A lot like the Z. Very vague at the wheel and the rear end does not seem tied down at all, even in fast sweepers. Still going to attack the suspension before the tires though... hopefully more camber will make things better. Taking an interesting approach with the suspension but I will keep that under wraps.

I have to assume you are exaggerating.

RWD cars are, generally, not "scary" in the rain. Any AWD should have more stable acceleration unless there is something seriously wrong with it. If I had a car as bad as you are saying I would be trading it in ASAP, not trying to jury rig the suspension or tire setup.

[GoCougs]

Agree. The Gs are super solid from the factory, esp. with sport package.

I would check the shocks/struts. They'll start to go at 60k miles or so.

[MX793]

I have to assume you are exaggerating.

RWD cars are, generally, not "scary" in the rain. Any AWD should have more stable acceleration unless there is something seriously wrong with it. If I had a car as bad as you are saying I would be trading it in ASAP, not trying to jury rig the suspension or tire setup.

Yeah, if the car has unpredictable breakaway in the rain, it's because the tires aren't progressive, which isn't uncommon for cheap tires (and even some not so cheap ones).  The correct answer is to buy better tires and/or back it down in the rain.  By now you should have a pretty good sense of how much it takes for the tires to come unglued in the wet.

[Rich]

I think the Z and the G have been your only RWD cars, no?  I don't think its scariness as much as just being normal RWD behavior. It takes care in the wet in most cars like the Mustang I had and the 86 to a much lesser extent. The Miata has such good feedback it's just plain old fun in the rain.

[giant_mtb]

Dude, if your vehicle is "scaring" you in the rain...once again...slow the fuck down.

Also at complaining about wet traction and then going for suspension modz over tires.  Save that "scary" shit for the track days you never do.

[12,000 RPM]

It's not scary all the time.... just when I *gently* load it up on stuff like on/off ramps to see how it is at the limit. But the Z was the same way. It could very well be the shocks. I will get the new wheels/tires sooner, looks like these wheels sell pretty well down here.

[CaminoRacer]

What's the rear toe setting?

[12,000 RPM]

I have no idea... I will get toe dialed to zero when I get it aligned with the suspension install.

[Laconian]

It's not scary all the time.... just when I *gently* load it up on stuff like on/off ramps to see how it is at the limit. But the Z was the same way. It could very well be the shocks. I will get the new wheels/tires sooner, looks like these wheels sell pretty well down here.

The OEM RE050s that came with my car had substantially lower limits than the PSSes. Upgrading the tires made the car completely unflappable.

[MX793]

It's not scary all the time.... just when I *gently* load it up on stuff like on/off ramps to see how it is at the limit. But the Z was the same way. It could very well be the shocks. I will get the new wheels/tires sooner, looks like these wheels sell pretty well down here.

If the car is suddenly breaking away as you load up and  touch the limits on a relatively constant radius turn like a ramp, it's tires.  My PZeros were like that, especially in the wet.  They gave little warning of when they were about to let go; traction just suddenly disappeared and the car went sideways.  A friend took my car on a damp autocross track and said the same thing (he was running a much more progressive tire on his car).  Said friend had similar complaints with a set of Hankook performance tires he previously ran on his car.  Great grip until they didn't, with no warning before they let go. 

[CaminoRacer]

Tires are a lot easier to change than suspension

[MX793]

Tires are a lot easier to change than suspension

But suspension allows for the car to be lowered, so it also improves looks, while tires can only improve how it drives.

[giant_mtb]

But suspension allows for the car to be lowered, so it also improves looks, while tires can only improve how it drives.

More cambers are better.  It'll solve the problem. 

[12,000 RPM]

Tires are a lot easier to change than suspension

Tires def do way more for handling as well; the change was night and day on my Civic with stock suspension

But new tires means new wheels too.... I don't want to get rubber for these rims, as good as they look.

[Rich]

I still think it's just that it's RWD. And LSD if it has one.

You say every RWD car you've had is spooky in the rain...

[Cookie Monster]

Maybe fucking with the tire pressures to get it to stop understeering is causing it to feel spooky in the rain.

[Laconian]

${FORTUNE_AUTO_JOKE}!!

[2o6]

why are you driving so fast tho


Like, I drive a FWD subcompact with fairly low limits (well prolly not as low as you'd think) and I've only felt out of control maybe twice? Even with me really caning a few BMW loaners, I've never felt out of control???? Like come on save it for the track????

[Tave]

It's your tires. These flash-deluge storms we get overpower the drainage quickly, and the ambient humidity helps the puddles last awhile. It's stupid easy to hydroplane if your tires are a little bald or bad in the wet. A decent set of rubber will make a night-and-day difference.

You still won't be able to see anything in front of you, but at least the brakes will work.

[68_427]

My friend is looking to buy a G37xS as a supplement to his STi.  His will have coils, wheels, and tires before Sporty's

[Cookie Monster]

Why an xS if he has an STI? Tell him to get a 6MT S.

[68_427]

Why an xS if he has an STI? Tell him to get a 6MT S.

He wants it for CT winters