Sporty G37 thread

[Soup DeVille]

Yes way, I paid $440 for my ARP studs on the Miata because I didn't have a lift or a press to get the studs out.

They are definitely better than bolt on spacers but they cost significantly more as well.

Fuck dude, you could have bought a press for that.

[Cookie Monster]

Fuck dude, you could have bought a press for that.

Yeah but I couldn't even get the hubs out with the car on stands since there was no room for me to even swing a hammer.

Point is, if you want studs, more than likely you'll have to either buy specific (and expensive) tools or get a shop to do it, both of which are much more expensive than bolt on spacers.

[CaminoRacer]

I did mine with a hammer iirc

[12,000 RPM]

Maybe it's different for different cars. For the G/Z you bang them out with a hammer, and then pull them back in with a nut and spacer I think with Hondas you could unbolt the hub and do the same.

[CaminoRacer]

Maybe it's different for different cars. For the G/Z you bang them out with a hammer, and then pull them back in with a nut and spacer I think with Hondas you could unbolt the hub and do the same.

Ahh yes I used the nut trick to install the new ones.

[12,000 RPM]

Re: handling

Tires are still crap, but I do think part of it was possibly an alignment issue. Most G's dropped this much have -1.5-2 camber all around, and that really seems to have helped. Before any kind of low speed aggression would equate to tire squeals. But now it's a legit "bro stop being an idiot" alert. That is awesome as now I think I can probably make do with 245s all around and have the grip I want. Also thinking about an RSB... damping and springs feel good but the back is just a hair roly poly. I still have to get the toe aligned all around but this move def helped

[Cookie Monster]

Maybe it's different for different cars. For the G/Z you bang them out with a hammer, and then pull them back in with a nut and spacer I think with Hondas you could unbolt the hub and do the same.

On the miata the hubs have to come out. Can't just smack the studs out without removing the hubs first.

[MrH]

You got the camber aligned but not the toe?

[12,000 RPM]

I haven't got anything aligned. Stop reaching

[Cookie Monster]

Do cars with struts gain camber when lowered? I know my ye olde Outback doesn't (looks kind of weird with almost no camber while still being low). I know cars with real suspension () do gain camber but I'm not very experienced with struts.

[68_427]

Do cars with struts gain camber when lowered? I know my ye olde Outback doesn't (looks kind of weird with almost no camber while still being low). I know cars with real suspension () do gain camber but I'm not very experienced with struts.

Mine did.  I don't remember the front but it gained like -1.5 in the rear.  I'm probably at almost 3 in the front after adjustments

[Cookie Monster]

Mine did.  I don't remember the front but it gained like -1.5 in the rear.  I'm probably at almost 3 in the front after adjustments

Yeah, but the rear is some sort of strut/multi link thing. I have some decent camber in the rear as well, but if I understand correctly that's why on our cars the front coilovers come with camber plates while the rears don't (I think).

[MrH]

I haven't got anything aligned. Stop reaching

So the coilovers didn't fix anything, but the alignment that you didn't do fixed your handling problems...?

[Cookie Monster]

Where did he say the coilovers didn't fix anything?

If lowering his car does pick up camber naturally then that itself would help with handling.

(that was the point of my question though).

[12,000 RPM]

Do cars with struts gain camber when lowered? I know my ye olde Outback doesn't (looks kind of weird with almost no camber while still being low). I know cars with real suspension () do gain camber but I'm not very experienced with struts.

From what I've seen, struts + lowering = positive camber. Think about what happens with the LCA (outer end gets closer to the car). From what I've seen though most strut coilover kits have camber adjustability built into the body. Range on the Civic let me get to about -1.5-2 up front.

So the coilovers didn't fix anything, but the alignment that you didn't do fixed your handling problems...?

Lowering the car changes the alignment. I lowered the front end an additional 1/2" or so from the initial install, which appears to have increased front negative camber and given the front end more grip. I still have to get it properly aligned though. Did you actually work for Bilstein or not?

[CaminoRacer]

Camber gain just depends on the overall geometry. Double wish one can gain positive camber if the spindle is shorter than the vertical distance between control arm mounts. That's how my car is stock. Newer cars have tall spindles to fix that.

[12,000 RPM]

I think all that matters for the camber curve on a DWB setup are the relative angles and lengths of the 2 arms. If you have two arms of the same length parallel to each other I don't see how spindle height would change camber for example. Most if not all modern DWB type cars have a SLA setup which will result in more negative camber as you go low

More importantly lol @ Mr.H getting womp womped.

[MrH]

Tires are still crap, but I do think part of it was possibly an alignment issue. Most G's dropped this much have -1.5-2 camber all around, and that really seems to have helped.

I haven't got anything aligned. Stop reaching

[12,000 RPM]

From the end of that same post

I still have to get the toe aligned all around

RIF

You and r0tor are sister wives.

[MrH]

How did you know the alignment was the issue and you fixed it and have 1.5-2.0 of camber all around if you didn't get an alignment?

[12,000 RPM]

How did you know the alignment was the issue and you fixed it and have 1.5-2.0 of camber all around if you didn't get an alignment?

Where did I say I knew the alignment was the issue?

People who have dropped similar amounts and posted their pre-corrected alignment specs saw negative camber increases of -1 to -1.5 degrees at both ends (stock is -0.5/-1.5 F/R). When I lowered the front again after putting the spacers on front end grip increased. All on the POS Nexens

[MrH]

Where did I say I knew the alignment was the issue?

Tires are still crap, but I do think part of it was possibly an alignment issue. Most G's dropped this much have -1.5-2 camber all around, and that really seems to have helped.

[12,000 RPM]

Thinking something = declaring it as fact?

[r0tor]

Dude he never said anything... He typed it 

[MrH]

"Show me where I said it!"
"Right here"
"Ok, but just because I said it doesn't mean I'm not wrong!"

[giant_mtb]

Well, this is pedantic.

[Cookie Monster]

I enjoy a good LOL at something dumb sporty says from time to time, but this seems like a reach. What did he say that is so unbelievable? That he probably gained camber? Or that the car handles better? Or that he needs an alignment?

[12,000 RPM]

I enjoy a good LOL at something dumb sporty says from time to time, but this seems like a reach. What did he say that is so unbelievable? That he probably gained camber? Or that the car handles better? Or that he needs an alignment?

Well, I tell you hwut. When I got back from my honeymoon with my wife my first thought wasn't to log on to the 'SPIN to seek the attention of another man But whatever floats MrH's boat

[12,000 RPM]

So quiet... why?

After wheels/tires, what should I do.... exhaust, or subwoofer? I'm leaning towards the sub.

[Soup DeVille]

So quiet... why?

After wheels/tires, what should I do.... exhaust, or subwoofer? I'm leaning towards the sub.

You're trolling again, aren't ya?