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Started by 12,000 RPM, March 28, 2017, 05:22:06 PM

12,000 RPM

Rabbit wouldn't start with a new battery. Having a date night at the mall like teenagers
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Laconian

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MX793

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CaminoRacer

Quote from: MX793 on March 28, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
No crank or no start?

According to one of the insurance companies' commercials, your battery is dead if the car cranks but doesn't start. :hammerhead:
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No crank, no turnover. Something electric for
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CaminoRacer

is the battery cable tight
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giant_mtb

That happened to me with my A4 once...super weird and freaked me out.  I disconnected/connected the battery and it fired right up.  Start with the basics and pray. :mask:

Soup DeVille

Got power to lights/radio and stuff? Normal warning lights?
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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FoMoJo

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 28, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
Rabbit wouldn't start with a new battery. Having a date night at the mall like teenagers
Did you have to get it towed?
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MX793

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 28, 2017, 06:02:03 PM
According to one of the insurance companies' commercials, your battery is dead if the car cranks but doesn't start. :hammerhead:

Well, if the car cranks too slowly to start, that can also be a "dead" battery.
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2o6

Are these 2.5's T-belt like the 2.slow?

MX793

Quote from: 2o6 on March 28, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
Are these 2.5's T-belt like the 2.slow?

No, they're chain.

My money's on electrical gremlin, since that's what VW does best.
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Raza

It knows you're trying to replace it.
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cawimmer430

Must be awesome sitting behind the wheel of that Euro POS pretending to drive while the car is actually being towed...  :devil:

:lol:


Speaking of potential dead batteries, what causes them? I mean are there really that many electronic devices in modern cars which mysteriously use so much battery power when the car is not being driven?

Our old ex-2002 Mercedes E320 W211 once had a dead battery. Happened during the winter after the car had not been driven for almost two weeks.
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68_427

Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 29, 2017, 02:39:05 AM
Must be awesome sitting behind the wheel of that Euro POS pretending to drive while the car is actually being towed...  :devil:

:lol:


Speaking of potential dead batteries, what causes them? I mean are there really that many electronic devices in modern cars which mysteriously use so much battery power when the car is not being driven?

Our old ex-2002 Mercedes E320 W211 once had a dead battery. Happened during the winter after the car had not been driven for almost two weeks.

The CEL always being on probably


It IS a VW after all
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cawimmer430

Quote from: 68_427 on March 29, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
The CEL always being on probably


It IS a VW after all

It is really weird how Volkswagen has a sketchy quality reputation, but Skoda, one of their umbrella brands, enjoys a reputation for amazing build quality and reliability. Essentially, Skodas are VWs with different badges!  :mask:
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Rich

Skodas aren't sold in the US
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Prognosis:

Dead starter

Also, leaking vacuum pump (common problem, oil leak, why does it need a vacuum pump???), torn CV joints (I knew they weren't in great shape but they weren't clicking), needs belts and possibly an idler pulley, as well as brakes (which I knew and have sitting in the garage) and tires soon (also knew)

VW dealer wants 3Gs.... fuck that. I called up an independent shop and their price to replace the starter was half the price. Just have to get it towed over
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Soup DeVille

Generally, you need a vacuum pump if the engine doesn't pull enough vacuum to power the brakes. If it ls a turbo, a diesel, or just a really good flowing engine, it needs one.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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shp4man

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 29, 2017, 05:07:39 PM
Prognosis:

Also, leaking vacuum pump (common problem, oil leak, why does it need a vacuum pump???), torn CV joints (I knew they weren't in great shape but they weren't clicking), needs belts and possibly an idler pulley, as well as brakes (which I knew and have sitting in the garage) and tires soon (also knew)

VW dealer wants 3Gs.... fuck that. I called up an independent shop and their price to replace the starter was half the price. Just have to get it towed over

Did the dealer give you an estimate for all of the above?

12,000 RPM

Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 29, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
Generally, you need a vacuum pump if the engine doesn't pull enough vacuum to power the brakes. If it ls a turbo, a diesel, or just a really good flowing engine, it needs one.
They make a vacuum pump delete kit for the 2.5 that has got good reviews. I can't see why this wouldn't pull enough vacuum.

The shop I'm looking to tow to specializes in VWAG so I imagine they'd have no problem putting the delete kit on. Needless cost + chance for failure.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 29, 2017, 05:52:46 PM
They make a vacuum pump delete kit for the 2.5 that has got good reviews. I can't see why this wouldn't pull enough vacuum.

The shop I'm looking to tow to specializes in VWAG so I imagine they'd have no problem putting the delete kit on. Needless cost + chance for failure.

Knowing VW, they put it on there for the one time out of a thousand it might be slightly low on vacuum.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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cawimmer430

Quote from: Rich on March 29, 2017, 03:49:53 AM
Skodas aren't sold in the US

I know, but here in Europe they have a great reputation for quality and reliability. They're often above VW and Seat!

It's weird since they're literally the same cars. Same engines, transmissions, electronics etc.
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Rich

Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 29, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
I know, but here in Europe they have a great reputation for quality and reliability. They're often above VW and Seat!

It's weird since they're literally the same cars. Same engines, transmissions, electronics etc.

Well, according to you BMW and VW have great reputations for reliability in Europe. And they don't in the IS
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68_427

Maybe German cars have good perceived reliability in Europe because they also get British, French, Italian, Eastern European, Indian, and Chinese cars in Europe as well.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 29, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
I know, but here in Europe they have a great reputation for quality and reliability. They're often above VW and Seat!

It's weird since they're literally the same cars. Same engines, transmissions, electronics etc.
Europeans drive less, have stricter inspections, and a generally higher appetite for problems. You think your BMW is reliable; over here we would call a car that chewed through several injectors before 100k km poorly designed and unreliable.
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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 29, 2017, 05:07:39 PM
Prognosis:

Dead starter

Also, leaking vacuum pump (common problem, oil leak, why does it need a vacuum pump???), torn CV joints (I knew they weren't in great shape but they weren't clicking), needs belts and possibly an idler pulley, as well as brakes (which I knew and have sitting in the garage) and tires soon (also knew)

VW dealer wants 3Gs.... fuck that. I called up an independent shop and their price to replace the starter was half the price. Just have to get it towed over
$1500 JUST TO REPLACE THE STARTER????????
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cawimmer430

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 30, 2017, 06:30:43 AM
Europeans drive less, have stricter inspections, and a generally higher appetite for problems. You think your BMW is reliable; over here we would call a car that chewed through several injectors before 100k km poorly designed and unreliable.

My car had ignition coil issues, not injector problems. BMW issued a recall, replaced all four ignition coils free-of-charge and ever since zero issues.

The car is also 10 years old and out of warranty. Driven daily, driven hard and fast on the Autobahns and is holding up well.

Rode in a buddy's Toyota Auris Hatch last year. It might be more reliable overall, but it felt flimsy on the highway and built-to-a-price, and it certainly won't be as fun to drive as the 1er.
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ifcar

Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 29, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
I know, but here in Europe they have a great reputation for quality and reliability. They're often above VW and Seat!

It's weird since they're literally the same cars. Same engines, transmissions, electronics etc.

But often one generation older, right? More time to work out bugs? And maybe because they're a lower-end brand, maybe some of the complexities are stripped back out?