Genesis Working On a Luxurious Two-Door GT

[cawimmer430]

Looks great. It comes across as very European and not Korean in terms of design.



Genesis Working On a Luxurious Two-Door GT



Genesis made a bit of a splash this week when they introduced the GV80 concept at the New York Auto Show.

While some have criticized the crossover's styling, something a lot more interesting is in the works.

Genesis head of design Luk Donckerwolke confirmed the brand's lineup will "certainly" include a "Gran Turismo two-door" model. Donckerwolke declined to go into specifics but told CarsAdvice he's "creating something new" and has an advantage over establish brands that are "guided by the past."

While most luxury GTs are powered by a big V8 engine, Genesis could go in a different direction as Manfred Fitzgerald stated "alternative propulsion systems are at the very core of this brand and I truly believe that." Donckerwolke, on the other hand, would love to see a V8 engine in the GT so it will be interesting to see who wins out.

It remains unclear when the Genesis GT will be introduced but it will join the company's growing lineup which is slated to consist of two crossovers, an assortment of sedans, and a sporty coupe which will likely be the successor to the Hyundai Genesis Coupe.


Link: http://www.carscoops.com/2017/04/genesis-working-on-luxurious-two-door-gt.html

[giant_mtb]

Rear end is pretty messed up, but it looks great otherwise.

[MX793]

The back reminds me a little of the Bentley Continental.

[FoMoJo]

Too bad that there's not any new design/styling ideas forthcoming, just and mix n' match of what's already out there.

[12,000 RPM]

Too bad that there's not any new design/styling ideas forthcoming, just and mix n' match of what's already out there.

Yep

And that originality is exactly what customers want

[r0tor]

Bargain brand lux just makes so little sense to me

[Vinsanity]

I, like anyone else here, wholeheartedly welcome any new sporty-ish 2-door car any carmakers will try to sell to us, but at the risk of being labeled an unthusiast, I think what the Genesis brand really needs are luxury crossover SUV's. If they want any serious sales volume, that is.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Looks like they lifted that dash straight out of a S Class.........

[Raza]

Bentley Continental GT by Hyundai.

[Tave]

It looks great, the Koreans are on fire with design right now. Love the invisible B-pillar.

[12,000 RPM]

Bargain brand lux just makes so little sense to me

Trust me, a Genesis at any price point is way more luxurious than any equally priced German equivalent.

[2o6]

Looks derivative and low class.

[12,000 RPM]

They need to hurry up with that crossover

[r0tor]

Trust me, a Genesis at any price point is way more luxurious than any equally priced German equivalent.

When you get to S Class level luxury cars price is irrelevant... as is most of the car itself.  It's all about exclusivity and other nonsense.

[ifcar]

When you get to S Class level luxury cars price is irrelevant... as is most of the car itself.  It's all about exclusivity and other nonsense.

Genesis' niche is an S-Class experience, at least based on the tangibles, at an E-Class price. (Or, with the G80, more of an E-Class experience at a C-Class price.) There's room for that niche -- plenty of folks are going to buy the most luxurious car they feel comfortable affording, and will define that in different ways.

[12,000 RPM]

When you get to S Class level luxury cars price is irrelevant... as is most of the car itself.  It's all about exclusivity and other nonsense.

No Genesis is going to be S Class priced which is the whole point

The point of something like the G80 is to have something every bit as nice as a fully loaded E Class for Maxima money. In that context these things make hella sense. Plus there are plenty of folks who want luxury but don't want to eat $60K in depreciation in 2 years. Even if the Genesis' depreciate by the same percentage the $$$ is nowhere near as bad (and they don't depreciate as quickly)

[r0tor]

Genesis' niche is an S-Class experience, at least based on the tangibles, at an E-Class price. (Or, with the G80, more of an E-Class experience at a C-Class price.) There's room for that niche -- plenty of folks are going to buy the most luxurious car they feel comfortable affording, and will define that in different ways.

S Class type buyers don't care about the price and will not buy a Genesis just based on the badge.  At most Genesis is going to get Joe the Plumber customers trying to look rich on a poor budget - which then drivers away the traditional luxury segments core customers.

[12,000 RPM]

So the only upside to a luxury car is "trying to look rich on a poor budget"? If that's the goal why buy a new Genesis over a new looking Benz/Bimmer for 1/2 the price?

[MrH]

S Class type buyers don't care about the price and will not buy a Genesis just based on the badge.  At most Genesis is going to get Joe the Plumber customers trying to look rich on a poor budget - which then drivers away the traditional luxury segments core customers.

How does your brain even work?

[SVT_Power]

How does your brain even work?

Who says it works?

[r0tor]

How does your brain even work?

Does anyone "need" an S Class or a Bentley or a 7 series?  Fuck no.  How about a V12 twin turbo?  Of course not either.  People buy them because it's a complete status symbol.  All of the super lux cars are complete status symbols.  Price does not matter in this class - prestige does.

The Genesis will be a poser car to the customers actually shopping for high end lux cars.  The best they will do is attract posers.

[12,000 RPM]

Does anyone "need" an S Class or a Bentley or a 7 series?  Fuck no.  How about a V12 twin turbo?  Of course not either.  People buy them because it's a complete status symbol.  All of the super lux cars are complete status symbols.  Price does not matter in this class - prestige does.

The Genesis will be a poser car to the customers actually shopping for high end lux cars.  The best they will do is attract posers.

People buy them because they are nice cars. It's no different than buying an Accord instead of a Fit... they both get you where you need to go, but the Accord gets you there w/much less stress and fuss. If Genesis can offer the same level of refinement, comfort and equipment as the Germans for half the price what's the problem? It has nothing to do with status.

[Char]

Bargain brand lux just makes so little sense to me

Agreed.

It also looks ugly and cheap.

[12,000 RPM]

Agreed.

It also looks ugly and cheap.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but a $50K BMW looks a lot cheaper than a $50K Genesis both in and out. An Accord EX-L gives most $50K BMWs the run for the money as far as "looking expensive".

[MexicoCityM3]

People buy them because they are nice cars. It's no different than buying an Accord instead of a Fit... they both get you where you need to go, but the Accord gets you there w/much less stress and fuss. If Genesis can offer the same level of refinement, comfort and equipment as the Germans for half the price what's the problem? It has nothing to do with status.

Yeah. Buying a premium car has nothing to do with status. Same with designer clothes, jewelry, high end houses, etc. Nothing to do with status.

[MX793]

A lot of premium buyers want the status.  There are some who want lots of luxury at good value, or who don't want to advertise their status with a snooty badge, but status is generally a huge part of premium/luxury vehicles. 

That said, all premium brands start somewhere.  Lexus is well regarded, at least in the US, and was basically built from the excellent mkI LS400, which offered all of the quality and features of the established Euro players at a lower price point.

[ifcar]

Yeah. Buying a premium car has nothing to do with status. Same with designer clothes, jewelry, high end houses, etc. Nothing to do with status.

No one said it has nothing to do with status. Just that there's also room for a brand that has a lot of the substance of a luxury car with a brand that, for now, isn't as prestigious.

[12,000 RPM]

No one said it has nothing to do with status. Just that there's also room for a brand that has a lot of the substance of a luxury car with a brand that, for now, isn't as prestigious.

I did... I guess I shouldn't have given luxury buyers the benefit of the doubt. I didn't think people actually tied their self esteem and sense of worth to the badge on their car.

In any case, there is still plenty of worth in a luxury car beyond the badge, just as there is plenty of worth in a sports car beyond the image. If Hyundai made a half-price RX-8 that drove just as well and got the same 18MPQ of 2 stroke oil I'm sure r0tor could see the value in such a move.

[r0tor]

So the point of something like an S Class is not even to drive but be driven by someone.

I can just see some rich dude going "OK Jeeves, let's take the glorified Hyundai today" or some wall Street dude taking his millionaire client out and when asked which car is there's they have to answer "the Hyundai... I mean Genesis but not a Hyundai Genesis". 

[r0tor]

I did... I guess I shouldn't have given luxury buyers the benefit of the doubt. I didn't think people actually tied their self esteem and sense of worth to the badge on their car.

In any case, there is still plenty of worth in a luxury car beyond the badge, just as there is plenty of worth in a sports car beyond the image. If Hyundai made a half-price RX-8 that drove just as well and got the same 18MPQ of 2 stroke oil I'm sure r0tor could see the value in such a move.

No, I don't but Korean krap