2017 Mazda MX-5 Miata RF Vs. 2017 Toyota 86

[Soup DeVille]

Don't you live in a rural area right now?  Or did you move back to NYC?

His area isn't exactly rural, just because there's a "Carolina" in the name.

[68_427]

He lives in suburban Charlotte IIRC

[12,000 RPM]

Don't you live in a rural area right now?  Or did you move back to NYC?

Philly only has 500K more people than Charlotte

[BimmerM3]

Philly only has 500K more people than Charlotte

Dude, that's a lot. Charlotte proper has like 53% of the population of Philadelphia, and the metro area is 40% of Philly metro area. .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

[12,000 RPM]

W/e man. Point is Charlotte's not rural. The town I work in has 33K people

[Tave]

In addition to the high heat created by torque braking you're talking about a lot of fluid pressure. There are plenty of horror stories out there if you're inclined to look for them. And any super-hard launch has the potential to cause premature wear'n'tear on the driveline.

Can you torque brake the car without damaging the tranny if you're smart about it, do it sparingly, and don't hold it for an extended period of time? Sure. Does it have the potential to damage the tranny if you do it too often or for too long. Of course.

[AutobahnSHO]

Philly only has 500K more people than Charlotte

that's like the entire population of Wyoming

[MX793]

Philly only has 500K more people than Charlotte

Charlotte city proper is considerably more sprawled (over 2x the land area of Philly).

[r0tor]

Charlotte is a nice city... Can't say that about Philly

[CaminoRacer]

Charlotte is a nice city... Can't say that about Philly

+1

[MX793]

Charlotte is a nice city... Can't say that about Philly

But they don't have cheese steaks...

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

But they don't have cheese steaks...

[Soup DeVille]

But they don't have cheese steaks...

They do, they just don't think they're some sort of cultural icon.

[r0tor]

But they don't have cheese steaks...

actually the italian pork sammich is the thing to try in philly.

however, north carolina bbq is still superior

[Raza]

W/e man. Point is Charlotte's not rural. The town I work in has 33K people

Don't take it so personally. It's not like I have your address in my Rolodex.

[Cookie Monster]

Charlotte is a nice city... Can't say that about Philly

What's wrong with Philly other than being close to Camden?

What's so great about Charlotte?

I'm asking because I've been to the east coast like once and that was to D.C.

[Soup DeVille]

What's wrong with Philly other than being close to Camden?

What's so great about Charlotte?

I'm asking because I've been to the east coast like once and that was to D.C.

Northeast and "Southern" cities have a different feel to them entirely. Especially the rust belt cities from Philly to Chicago. They're just not for everybody, and have their own vibe.

Charlotte, Atlanta, and all are cities for people who don't really like cities. A bit cleaner, a bit less frantic.

[r0tor]

What's wrong with Philly other than being close to Camden?

What's so great about Charlotte?

I'm asking because I've been to the east coast like once and that was to D.C.

Philly is probably my least favorite major city in the northeast (well maybe east coast). Other then a few (and I mean like 3) blocks around independence hall, the city is by and large just dirty and uninteresting.

NYC, Boston, DC, Baltimore are all way better.  Charlotte is a really nice town/city.

[12,000 RPM]

What's wrong with Philly other than being close to Camden?

What's so great about Charlotte?

I'm asking because I've been to the east coast like once and that was to D.C.

Philly is OK to visit. Lots of history, more culture/food. CLT is better to live. Cheaper, nicer weather, nicer roads, a road course 1 hr away etc.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Northeast and "Southern" cities have a different feel to them entirely. Especially the rust belt cities from Philly to Chicago. They're just not for everybody, and have their own vibe.

Charlotte, Atlanta, and all are cities for people who don't really like cities. A bit cleaner, a bit less frantic.

[SJ_GTI]

Philly is OK to visit. Lots of history, more culture/food. CLT is better to live. Cheaper, nicer weather, nicer roads, a road course 1 hr away etc.

FWIW there is a race track (two road courses, FWIW) in the town where I work. Its about an hour away from Philly (depending on which part of Philly you are coming from, maybe closer).

http://www.njmp.com/

At some point I have to actually get up the motivation to go there for an open track day. Its about a 15 minute drive from where I live (next town over).

[SJ_GTI]

What's wrong with Philly other than being close to Camden?

While I am not defending Camden, you have to keep in mind it is a "city" in name only (IMHO). Its really small and not that many people live there (~80k people). I feel like it would be the equivalent of a bad neighborhood in a normal city. In this case the "nice parts" of the city are either across the river (Philly) or are the suburbs to the east (Cherry Hill, Haddonfield, etc...).

[giant_mtb]

a road course 1 hr away etc.

Naming things you never utilize as gifts of where you live is

[MrH]

Naming things you never utilize as gifts of where you live is

[Laconian]

To summarize: MX5 RF FTW

[12,000 RPM]

Naming things you never utilize as gifts of where you live is

Damn it

[giant_mtb]

Damn it

It's like city people who are like "yeah, but I have 7,343 restaurants to pick from."

[AutobahnSHO]

The south is way more laid back. Between NYC and DC people are just always in a hurry and not as friendly.

To summarize: MX5 RF FTW

I would say RF or softtop FTW.

[Cookie Monster]

Naming things you never utilize as gifts of where you live is

Oh snap.

[68_427]

Naming things you never utilize as gifts of where you live is

What Sporty hasn't said is that he camps in the infield at CMS during NASCAR weekends.



Right?  I'm sure he does...