The Official C8 Corvette Thread...

Started by Gotta-Qik-C7, April 25, 2018, 07:28:09 PM

CaminoRacer

Quote from: r0tor on March 25, 2019, 05:38:38 AM
Wasn't it spied being broke down again?

wow it's like it's under development or something

As if no other car manufacturers have any issues during development. The thing hasn't even been announced yet.
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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 25, 2019, 09:17:06 AM
wow it's like it's under development or something

As if no other car manufacturers have any issues during development. The thing hasn't even been announced yet.
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r0tor

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 25, 2019, 09:17:06 AM
wow it's like it's under development or something

As if no other car manufacturers have any issues during development. The thing hasn't even been announced yet.

This thing was reported to be ready to fight the Ford GT.  The Ford GT will not even be in production when (or if) this thing ever goes on sale.

The development on this thing has to be completely miserable.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: r0tor on March 25, 2019, 10:15:33 AM
This thing was reported to be ready to fight the Ford GT.  The Ford GT will not even be in production when (or if) this thing ever goes on sale.

The development on this thing has to be completely miserable.

Reported by who? If it's not a claim from GM, it's just internet people looking for clicks.

I bet the guys developing it are having a great time. The GM performance chassis design team is a dream job.
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r0tor

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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: r0tor on March 25, 2019, 10:15:33 AM
This thing was reported to be ready to fight the Ford GT.  The Ford GT will not even be in production when (or if) this thing ever goes on sale.

The development on this thing has to be completely miserable.
Just because Ford hid the developement of their car in the basement for years doesn't mean the GT didn't take as long or longer!


Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 25, 2019, 01:44:13 PM
The C7 has only been out since 2014. Chill brah
RIGHT!

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GoCougs

Quote from: r0tor on March 25, 2019, 10:15:33 AM
This thing was reported to be ready to fight the Ford GT.  The Ford GT will not even be in production when (or if) this thing ever goes on sale.

The development on this thing has to be completely miserable.

So who reported that?

The current Ford GT is a race car first, and modified (compromised) for the street, with only 250 built per year. GM knows this as well as anyone, and has for a long time.

The Corvette has always been a street car first.

r0tor

The person who is now in charge of GM "reported" that... Yeesh
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MX793

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on March 25, 2019, 05:00:22 PM
Just because Ford hid the developement of their car in the basement for years doesn't mean the GT didn't take as long or longer!

RIGHT!



Ford GT publicly debuted in Jan 2015 as a concept.  It had been in development for roughly a year prior to that.  Racing version was competing the following January at Daytona 2016.  Street version went into production December '16.
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FoMoJo

Quote from: GoCougs on March 25, 2019, 10:36:36 PM
So who reported that?

The current Ford GT is a race car first, and modified (compromised) for the street, with only 250 built per year. GM knows this as well as anyone, and has for a long time.

The Corvette has always been a street car first.
You're right, the Ford GT is a race car first, as it should be.  The only reason for it's existence is to celebrate the single most iconic moment in American International racing history. 
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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: MX793 on March 26, 2019, 06:59:02 AM
Ford GT publicly debuted in Jan 2015 as a concept.  It had been in development for roughly a year prior to that.  Racing version was competing the following January at Daytona 2016.  Street version went into production December '16.
Show how long before the concept was shown was Ford developing the GT? I'm sure it was WELL along before they showed the car. The GT just hadn't been spotted a Kazillion times like the C8 has.

Quote from: FoMoJo on March 26, 2019, 08:08:22 AM
You're right, the Ford GT is a race car first, as it should be.  The only reason for it's existence is to celebrate the single most iconic moment in American International racing history. 
And fine for a limited run Super Car ( that still got out lapped by a front engine "Street car" called the  ZR1) That NONE of the owners will DD! For a Corvette is has to be a streetcar first!
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GoCougs

Quote from: r0tor on March 26, 2019, 05:50:54 AM
The person who is now in charge of GM "reported" that... Yeesh

Mary Barra? I don't think so. I mean, the C7 ZR1 is one up on the Ford GT but GM didn't plan on that per se.

MX793

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on March 26, 2019, 09:31:22 AM
Show how long before the concept was shown was Ford developing the GT? I'm sure it was WELL along before they showed the car. The GT just hadn't been spotted a Kazillion times like the C8 has.
And fine for a limited run Super Car ( that still got out lapped by a front engine "Street car" called the  ZR1) That NONE of the owners will DD! For a Corvette is has to be a streetcar first!

They started development roughly a year before they showed the concept.
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15380257/the-17-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-2017-ford-gt-supercar/
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CaminoRacer

Quick GT development doesn't mean the Corvette is slow. Ford had a deadline to meet so they could win Le Mans for their 50th anniversary
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MX793

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 26, 2019, 12:00:47 PM
Quick GT development doesn't mean the Corvette is slow. Ford had a deadline to meet so they could win Le Mans for their 50th anniversary

You're the one who said Ford spent as long or longer on the GT.

The C8 will be done when it's done.  Better to make sure that it's right than have a ton of problems and recalls because it was half-baked.
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r0tor

Quote from: GoCougs on March 26, 2019, 11:34:55 AM
Mary Barra? I don't think so. I mean, the C7 ZR1 is one up on the Ford GT but GM didn't plan on that per se.

Mark Reuss.... President of GM... Formerly director of the performance division...
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FoMoJo

Quote from: MX793 on March 26, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
You're the one who said Ford spent as long or longer on the GT.

The C8 will be done when it's done.  Better to make sure that it's right than have a ton of problems and recalls because it was half-baked.
Half-baked may be the operational term.  Gotta make sure it doesn't come limping home after a couple of hot laps :huh:.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: MX793 on March 26, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
You're the one who said Ford spent as long or longer on the GT.

nuh-uh

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The C8 will be done when it's done.  Better to make sure that it's right than have a ton of problems and recalls because it was half-baked.

Agreed. And it's not the only mid-engined car to take a while. Didn't the NSX get re-started from scratch?
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Payman

It's only been a year since magazines started to report on the C8, and little more than that since any of us learned they were going to build it.

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: FoMoJo on March 26, 2019, 01:14:52 PM
Half-baked may be the operational term.  Gotta make sure it doesn't come limping home after a couple of hot laps :huh:.
Same way the Mustang GT PP (without a Super Charger) over heated at VIR after 3 laps....... Or how about the gearboxes in the GT350 that over heated so much that a Class Action Lawsuit was brought against Ford?   :huh:

https://jalopnik.com/shelby-gt350-mustang-owners-suing-ford-over-overheating-1793541621
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GoCougs

Quote from: r0tor on March 26, 2019, 01:06:52 PM
Mark Reuss.... President of GM... Formerly director of the performance division...

Mary Barra is the head (CEO) of GM - she's in charge, and his boss. Neither she, nor he, has reported such a thing.

MX793

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on March 26, 2019, 02:45:55 PM
Same way the Mustang GT PP (without a Super Charger) over heated at VIR after 3 laps....... Or how about the gearboxes in the GT350 that over heated so much that a Class Action Lawsuit was brought against Ford?   :huh:

https://jalopnik.com/shelby-gt350-mustang-owners-suing-ford-over-overheating-1793541621

The GTPP suffered from an overheated differential due to the proximity of the exhaust to the diff and limited heat shielding on the exhaust.  I also think it's linked to the active exhaust option, since I can't seem to find any instances of it happening on earlier S550s which didn't have that feature (active exhaust became an option in 2017 or 18).  The issue can be largely mitigated if not resolved with a simple exhaust wrap near the diff.

Non-Track Pack GT350s had the same issue for first year models.  Ford made the track pack's diff cooler standard on 2nd year cars.
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r0tor

Quote from: Rockraven on March 26, 2019, 02:14:48 PM
It's only been a year since magazines started to report on the C8, and little more than that since any of us learned they were going to build it.

Last year was 2014?
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15110136/c8-chevrolet-corvette-exclusive-what-to-expect-from-the-heart-stopping-mid-engined-zora-feature/
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MX793

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Payman

Yeah... given what day it is, I ain't clicking on that.

MX793

The first half or so of that article is actually almost believable.  When they talked about dropping a V6 in, it started getting questionable.  The mention of using leftover Cobalt XFE badges...
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Payman

I'd be totally onboard with a base model with the Camaro's V6 and 7 speed manual for ~$45,000.

12,000 RPM

A livable mid engine $45K is definitely intriguing. Does this thing's engine run north-south? I'd imagine they'd use a shortened version of the current Corvette's transaxle if so.
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