The Official C8 Corvette Thread...

Started by Gotta-Qik-C7, April 25, 2018, 07:28:09 PM

Submariner

I'm no GM fan but fuck me.  60k for that is incredible.
2010 G-550  //  2019 GLS-550

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 19, 2019, 10:37:44 AM
I am getting heartburn having to give GM props here but they fucking nailed it :facepalm: For the money you can't even bitch about the design. Convertible looks like a fucking Ferrari :banghead:
:rockon:

2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide

2o6

Let's hope they cut this chassis down and make a Nu Fiero with the GM corporate 2.0T

MrH

One of the big reasons GM can pull this off is just volume alone.  They're looking to sell 40,000/year C8s.  The previous corvettes all sold in pretty big volume too.  C7 was selling almost 25k-35k the last few years I think.  For comparison, a miata is only selling like 8-11k/year.

So much of the cost of vehicles is the upfront development cost and tooling.  The profitability of a vehicle is hugely dependent on getting enough volume to spread those fixed costs.  Corvettes have a legion of FOGs in New Balances and jorts that give GM a lot of flexibility from a cost standpoint.
2023 Ford Lightning Lariat ER
2019 Acura RDX SH-AWD
2023 BRZ Limited

Previous: '02 Mazda Protege5, '08 Mazda Miata, '05 Toyota Tacoma, '09 Honda Element, '13 Subaru BRZ, '14 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec 5.0, '15 Toyota 4Runner SR5, '18 Honda Accord EX-L 2.0t, '01 Honda S2000, '20 Subaru Outback XT, '23 Chevy Bolt EUV

giant_mtb

Do you think the FOGs are gonna go for a MR Corvette?  Or is this mostly going to spark the younger buyers into the arena of Corvette?  I can imagine some curmudgeonly old guys bein' like "ahhhh fuck that thing it ain't no Vette!"

CaminoRacer

Quote from: giant_mtb on July 19, 2019, 11:49:23 AM
Do you think the FOGs are gonna go for a MR Corvette?  Or is this mostly going to spark the younger buyers into the arena of Corvette?  I can imagine some curmudgeonly old guys bein' like "ahhhh fuck that thing it ain't no Vette!"

Yeah I think this will appeal to a younger crowd. Some old guys, but maybe not all the old guys.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Payman

Lotus also introduced a new $2 million hybrid supercar. Or something.

MrH

Quote from: giant_mtb on July 19, 2019, 11:49:23 AM
Do you think the FOGs are gonna go for a MR Corvette?  Or is this mostly going to spark the younger buyers into the arena of Corvette?  I can imagine some curmudgeonly old guys bein' like "ahhhh fuck that thing it ain't no Vette!"

The only issue they'd have with it is there aren't chrome wheels available.  FOGs will still buy these in droves.


I've decided what I dislike about the looks.  It's the stock rear spoiler.  Totally kills the lines.  Without it, it looks 10 times better.
2023 Ford Lightning Lariat ER
2019 Acura RDX SH-AWD
2023 BRZ Limited

Previous: '02 Mazda Protege5, '08 Mazda Miata, '05 Toyota Tacoma, '09 Honda Element, '13 Subaru BRZ, '14 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec 5.0, '15 Toyota 4Runner SR5, '18 Honda Accord EX-L 2.0t, '01 Honda S2000, '20 Subaru Outback XT, '23 Chevy Bolt EUV

Payman

Quote from: MrH on July 19, 2019, 12:12:52 PM
The only issue they'd have with it is there aren't chrome wheels available.  FOGs will still buy these in droves.


I've decided what I dislike about the looks.  It's the stock rear spoiler.  Totally kills the lines.  Without it, it looks 10 times better.

Yes.

BimmerM3

Quote from: MrH on July 19, 2019, 12:12:52 PM
The only issue they'd have with it is there aren't chrome wheels available.  FOGs will still buy these in droves.


I've decided what I dislike about the looks.  It's the stock rear spoiler.  Totally kills the lines.  Without it, it looks 10 times better.

Apparently the spoiler is only on the Z51 package.

Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 18, 2019, 04:20:38 PM
Quick, turn on your rear defroster while driving. No, not the heated seats... oh, now you turned on the passenger seat cooler... fuck, just pull over.

Also, fuck your passenger's left arm.

Terrible design.

Agreed. It's just a wall of buttons between you and the passenger. Also, is the engine in the fucking center console? Why is it so high and wide? This Automatic-Only Mid-Engine Chevrolet (AOMEC, from here on) is going to be a performance monster, but it's not for me.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you can read this, you're too close


2006 BMW Z4 3.0i
http://accelerationtherapy.squarespace.com/   @accelerationdoc
Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 19, 2019, 05:06:26 AM
Damn, this might be the death of the Camaro too. Why bother with an ugly obese ZL1? What the fuck GM. This is a game changer. Damn near every 60kish performance car looks stupid now.

182" is big for a 2 seater though. But it's still light (for 2020) so it's fine


It's longer than a 911 again.

But the Camaro is already dead, I don't see a reason to kill it again.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you can read this, you're too close


2006 BMW Z4 3.0i
http://accelerationtherapy.squarespace.com/   @accelerationdoc
Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

MrH

Quote from: Rockraven on July 19, 2019, 12:14:37 PM
Yes.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 19, 2019, 12:15:52 PM
Apparently the spoiler is only on the Z51 package.
There's an optional big ole WANG you can get that also looks better.  The stock Z51 one is baaaad.
2023 Ford Lightning Lariat ER
2019 Acura RDX SH-AWD
2023 BRZ Limited

Previous: '02 Mazda Protege5, '08 Mazda Miata, '05 Toyota Tacoma, '09 Honda Element, '13 Subaru BRZ, '14 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec 5.0, '15 Toyota 4Runner SR5, '18 Honda Accord EX-L 2.0t, '01 Honda S2000, '20 Subaru Outback XT, '23 Chevy Bolt EUV

MrH

Quote from: Raza  on July 19, 2019, 12:34:20 PM
Agreed. It's just a wall of buttons between you and the passenger. Also, is the engine in the fucking center console? Why is it so high and wide? This Automatic-Only Mid-Engine Chevrolet (AOMEC, from here on) is going to be a performance monster, but it's not for me.

It doesn't have a carbon tub and doesn't use the conventional tub structure idea for it's rigidity.  Has a massive tunnel to keep the body stiff.  That way they have the same chassis for convertible and coupe, and the coupe can have that removable targa top.
2023 Ford Lightning Lariat ER
2019 Acura RDX SH-AWD
2023 BRZ Limited

Previous: '02 Mazda Protege5, '08 Mazda Miata, '05 Toyota Tacoma, '09 Honda Element, '13 Subaru BRZ, '14 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec 5.0, '15 Toyota 4Runner SR5, '18 Honda Accord EX-L 2.0t, '01 Honda S2000, '20 Subaru Outback XT, '23 Chevy Bolt EUV

Raza

Quote from: MrH on July 19, 2019, 07:28:14 AM
C7 prices are going to tank so hard.

Hope so. It's going back on the list of possible Z4 replacements.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you can read this, you're too close


2006 BMW Z4 3.0i
http://accelerationtherapy.squarespace.com/   @accelerationdoc
Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

NomisR

I was thinking about a 718 GT4 but this seems like a much better deal.

Raza

Quote from: MrH on July 19, 2019, 12:40:27 PM
It doesn't have a carbon tub and doesn't use the conventional tub structure idea for it's rigidity.  Has a massive tunnel to keep the body stiff.  That way they have the same chassis for convertible and coupe, and the coupe can have that removable targa top.

I wonder if they're still going to do a convertible.

Anyway, I think this thing looks great and will be a huge hit. It's not a Corvette, sure, but it'll be a fucking monster.

The guy who paid 2.7 million for the last C7 probably feels like an idiot now.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you can read this, you're too close


2006 BMW Z4 3.0i
http://accelerationtherapy.squarespace.com/   @accelerationdoc
Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: Raza  on July 19, 2019, 12:45:29 PM
I wonder if they're still going to do a convertible.

Anyway, I think this thing looks great and will be a huge hit. It's not a Corvette, sure, but it'll be a fucking monster.

The guy who paid 2.7 million for the last C7 probably feels like an idiot now.
Yeah it's getting a power hardtop......


Quote from: MrH on July 19, 2019, 12:39:28 PM
There's an optional big ole WANG you can get that also looks better.  The stock Z51 one is baaaad.
LOL! I saw that one too! The styling of the big Wang might be a lil ricer tho!
2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide

NomisR

How do you get to the Z51 package?

12,000 RPM

Quote from: NomisR on July 19, 2019, 12:43:11 PM
I was thinking about a 718 GT4 but this seems like a much better deal.
I would have a hard time choosing honestly

GT4 looks better, has 3 pedals, (IMO) sounds better but I'm weird
Protecctor of the Atmospheric Engine #TheyLiedToUs

MX793

Quote from: Raza  on July 19, 2019, 12:45:29 PM
I wonder if they're still going to do a convertible.


It's still a targa, so structurally, it should be sound as a convertible with little-to-no extra bracing provided they have some space for the top to fold into.
Needs more Jiggawatts

2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback / 2004 Mazda Mazda3s / 2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium / 2007 Suzuki GSF1250SA Bandit / 2006 VW Jetta 2.5

NomisR

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 19, 2019, 01:52:17 PM
I would have a hard time choosing honestly

GT4 looks better, has 3 pedals, (IMO) sounds better but I'm weird

I don't know about the sound but I agree with the first two.  But the price difference though.  I wish car manufacturers would build sequential transmission cars with a clutch pedal, that would be perfect for me, I don't care too much for rowing but I do prefer a clutch for driveability.

r0tor

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 19, 2019, 01:52:17 PM
I would have a hard time choosing honestly

GT4 looks better, has 3 pedals, (IMO) sounds better but I'm weird

I agree with that
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: NomisR on July 19, 2019, 01:48:15 PM
How do you get to the Z51 package?
It's considered an option so all you gotta do is check the box on the order sheet.
2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide

565

The GPS front lifter is a piece of technology that is brilliant.  I bet everyone is going to steal the idea immediately (Ferrari, lambo etc).

This will certainly put the pressure on the 911, but people who want a 911 will still get one. 

This car will definitely put a absolute beat down on the more alternative sports cars that are already struggling.  Like the NSX for example.  The NSX is screwed.

Sadly I fear the new supra is kinda screwed too, this c8 is just next level for a bit more money.

It also takes the wind out if the sails of the super pony cars.  Even if the gt500 is amazing, I'd be hard pressed to justify spending more money on it.

Looking at the videos of people that went to the event and filmed the cars up close, you can really appreciate the thought that GM put into these cars.  The cargo capacity is really impressive.  Mid engine cars with a rear cargo area tend to have a very shallow one, but the C8 has a very deep one front and rear.

This is going to sell like hot cakes, and it's going to take sales from a wide range of competitors.


SJ_GTI


NomisR

Kids should love all those buttons

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: 565 on July 19, 2019, 03:59:21 PM
The GPS front lifter is a piece of technology that is brilliant.  I bet everyone is going to steal the idea immediately (Ferrari, lambo etc).

This will certainly put the pressure on the 911, but people who want a 911 will still get one. 

This car will definitely put a absolute beat down on the more alternative sports cars that are already struggling.  Like the NSX for example.  The NSX is screwed.

Sadly I fear the new supra is kinda screwed too, this c8 is just next level for a bit more money.

It also takes the wind out if the sails of the super pony cars.  Even if the gt500 is amazing, I'd be hard pressed to justify spending more money on it.

Looking at the videos of people that went to the event and filmed the cars up close, you can really appreciate the thought that GM put into these cars.  The cargo capacity is really impressive.  Mid engine cars with a rear cargo area tend to have a very shallow one, but the C8 has a very deep one front and rear.

This is going to sell like hot cakes, and it's going to take sales from a wide range of competitors.


:popcorn: YUP!!!
2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide

FoMoJo

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on July 19, 2019, 07:08:40 AM
Me too! Now I'm torn between a C7 Z06 and a base C8...........
Go for it man :ohyeah:.
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

Gotta-Qik-C7

2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide